Monday, July 28, 2008

So, Was There Or Was There Not.....

According to Malaysiakini -- breaking news, "there is no evidence that Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan was sodomised, according to the doctor who examined him four hours before he lodged a police report alleging he was sexually assaulted by PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim."

And according to Raja Petra of Malaysia Today, the doctor who examined Saiful on June 28, "has gone underground with his family" after he was detained by police for three days.

(Does private investigator Balasubramaniam come to mind? But in this case, the good doctor purportedly stood his ground and refused to budge -- sticking to his report.)

But police, according to the NST online, have made a swift denial of the Malaysiakini report, saying that it was "another attempt to sabotage police investigations".

Deputy Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar was quoted as saying that the Malaysiakini report is also aimed at confusing the people.

Here's the rest of the NST report:

"Police, he said, were considering investigating the news website and a blog over their reports, which referred to a medical report allegedly issued by Pusrawi Hospital on Jalan Tun Razak.

The news report claimed that there was no evidence that Anwar’s former aide Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan had been sodomised.

However, Ismail declined to comment on the medical report itself, saying investigations were ongoing.
Mohd Saiful had alleged that he had been sodomised by the de facto leader of Parti Keadilan Rakyat.

Ismail also quashed rumours that Dr Mohamed Osman Abdul Hamid, the Pusrawi Hospital medical officer who examined Mohd Saiful on June 28, had been picked up by police.

“Mohamed Osman’s statement had been recorded by police earlier on in the investigation, as such, rumours circulating about his arrest by police are untrue,” Ismail said.

Attempts to get in touch with Pusrawi Hospital officials were futile as all questions were met with a “No comment” answer.

According to the news website, Dr Mohamed Osman had examined Mohd Saiful about four hours before lodging a police report alleging he had been sexually assaulted by Anwar.

Mohd Saiful went to the hospital about 2pm on June 28 complaining of ’tenesmus’, a medical term for difficulty and pain in passing motion.

Dr Mohamed Osman, a Burmese Muslim, is said to be on leave. "

Just so typical -- the developments surrounding the sodomy allegation against Anwar and allegations that Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak and wife, Rosmah Mansur are involved in the murder of Mongolian model Altanuya Sharibuu.

At this point and the way things are moving, I tell you, we will never ever know the truth! Because we don't even know what's not....

LATEST (July 29 2008): Press statement by Anwar Ibrahim HERE.


artic turban said...

Well, RPK has come through again, this time with the actual copy of the medical reports, reading rpk and his expose's, I would give RPK the benefit of the doubt as his disclosures have been 90% of the time turn up to be true. Even before he wrote anything about altantuya, people in high places in KL and putrajaya were already voicing the NAJIB connection before the spin doctors went to work to cover up the murders, go ask around in umno circles, there were a lot of table thumping going on in umno meetings, as the main question asked and answered were
1) the people involved, in the murder, all were in the inner circle of najib, mainly they had nothing to gain, but najib had a lot to loose.
2) C4, WHO CONTROLS IT, 3) IMMIGRATION INFO erased, who has that kind of clout, etc,etc
rpk's exposes and information has always panned out and his nuggets of information has made him the target of umno and cohoots. This speaks for a lot, nobody in Malaysian history has made umno shiver like rpk has done. so like the majority of malaysians, I would take rpk's word any day and bank it. As for our political buffons in power and the msm, they are fools to think we malayians will continue to listen to their lies anymore. THE UMNO GOVT HAS LOST ALL CREDIBILITY FROM MALAYSIANS, and with this expose' a lot of umno members too.

Anonymous said...

I had commented in other blogs, my fear is that the police will not investigate the new revelation but will seek to investigate the blogger and online news media both not named by the police, but you all should know who they are.

Anonymous said...

As we have been saying, the credibility of people in charge for law and order is completely destroyed. Neither the government leaders nor the police/AG are interested in restoring the public confidence in them.

Isn't this a shame; shame not only to leaders but also to us Malaysians for choosing such lowly and unscrupulous leaders? It is a question Pak Lah needs to answer now, is he really committed to reform the institutions in Malaysia or is he interested in joining Dr.M as the successor who made corruption a part of Malaysian and Malay culture? Going after your political enemy is common but resorting to use any means including going against the teaching of your own faith which you vigorously profess is utter hypocrisy.

Pak Lah don’t destroy yourself.


Anonymous said...

" thank god now they dun bother me on the benz & perdana issue, tonite i can sleep better without ubat, thanks tuhan !"

Anonymous said...

Exactly. Isn't it quite easy and straight forward to establish the truth, and why are pussy-footing and going the long-winded way? I'm afraid soon Malaysia will be known as a nation of liars, if she is not already.

Anonymous said...

Well, if what you concluded holds out to be true, then this nation is doomed!

Yes, when a nation's justice system cannot bring out the truth by ruling out the untruth, then there is something fundamentally wrong with that country.

Then all else is wasted.

What you conclude also heralds more bad news for Malaysia. So, if our Rulers do not stand up and make a diffrence quickly, then the nation would have sunk so low that we would leave nothing but lost dreams for our children.

Believe me!

Donplaypuks® said...

Note that I Polis Raja did not say the medical report was false or inaccurate or manufactured.

That speaks volumes. And their respnse - play the man and not the ball.

Anonymous said...

Without a shadow of doubt that Malaysia is now a pariah police state ... Wali Kota

Bung Karno said...

If we believe in free press, then should not this be the truth ?

Old Fart said...

I am generally speaking a very stupid person. Most will agree. I believe just about anything and everything.

I find it difficult to belive the Deputy IGP. Does anyone?

I know that the denial was menat for us stupid people to believe. I am stupid and yet I don't believe. I am not even going to bother asking what most Malaysians who belong to the clever category think of this.

Maybe the IGP or his deputy can try again. I am just helping the police to understand the level of stupidity they have to come before they can reach me. And I am really low as it is.

Anonymous said...

Hi nuraini... love your analysis.... in BolehLand everthing is possible.. the more muddle the more truths unfold-that's the paradox of living in BolehLand. I really don't know who to believe and I hope the God swearing don't restart. See my take of our reality tv of this sandiwara in BolehLand.
smile :P

Anonymous said...

Can we believe all this? Where did they get all of this info? Hmm.. Lets just wait and see..

Anonymous said...

" now they have new thing to talk, forgetting the benz & perdana , oh tanks tuhan, can relax / breath lah
' kalau bini masih cantik buat apa tukar '....hihihi...tapi kalau boleh mengapa tak ....hehehe ...!?"

Unknown said...

Anything to do with Anwar is full of contradictions.

So much confusion created over this one man since the 90s.

Unfiltered-Madness said...

saiful medical report.

another side of story

baca sini

Anonymous said...

Again, RPK has come out a new shocking article regarding to Anwar’s latest sodomy case. But should the medical report be reveal out so easy? Medical report are confidential does RPK has clean hands on this source? Is the source reliable? It might be like the previous SD he made earlier.

More curiously, why the police has to chase after the missing doctor? would that be more easy if the authorities just need to find a replacement instead?

Is the doctor an expert proven by authorities to check on him? Why did the doctor ran and hide? Why detain the police detain the doctor?

But in a conclusion, when it comes to political cases it would never be solve in a short period. The actual truth will never leak out to public.

Anonymous said...

Four hours before, no sodomy. Four hours after medical examination and after police report was sodomised.Easy what.... The boys in blue did it! They found that boy's butt irrestible.

Anonymous said...

after been checked by that burmese doc :" no sign of sodomy" , so he went to consult with 'cold hands again' then to HKL for examination
: AIYAH, sodomy lah ! so made a polis report lo !!

Anonymous said...

29 July 2008
Tips Untuk Laporan Kesihatan Yang Sah Dan Kukuh Untuk Kes Sodomi

Dr Novandri Hasan Basri

Pada pandangan penulis sebagai seorang doktor, laporan kesihatan Saiful Bukhari yang ter'bocor' di Hospital Pusrawi, tidak boleh dijadikan bahan bukti terhadap kes liwat Anwar Ibrahim.

1. Ianya terlalu ringkas, tidak lengkap dan tidak mengikut prosedur seperti yang ditetapkan oleh pemeriksaan forensik.

2. Malah pemeriksaan ke atas Saiful Bukhari juga tidak lengkap. Hanya PR (per rectum) dilakukan iaitu menggunakan jari untuk memeriksa anal (dubur) pemuda tersebut. Prosedur sebenarnya lebih daripada itu iaitu termasuk memeriksa anal itu dengan alat proktoskop dan sebagainya.

3. Begitulah prosedurnya apabila seorang mangsa seksual datang ke klinik atau hospital swasta di mana kes-kes yang bakal dirujuk kepada pihak polis akan dirujuk segera kepada pihak hospital kerajaan.

4. Ini adalah kerana hospital kerajaan mempunyai kepakaran forensik serta lengkap dengan peralatan yang diperlukan.

5. Referral itu dimestikan kerana jika pemeriksaan tidak dilakukan dengan betul dan tidak mengikut prosedur yang ditetapkan, peliwat itu boleh dibebaskan di atas sebab bukti-bukti yang tidak kukuh atau pun technical fault.

6. Yang menimbulkan tandatanya kepada penulis ialah tulisan doktor itu yang hanya menulis bahawa Saiful di assault di satu sudut di hujung laporan itu selepas simptom-simptom yang lain.

7. Apakah kenyataan itu ditambah hanya selepas doktor tersebut melakukan pemeriksaan anal menggunakan jari (PR)?

8.Jika benar, penulis pasti PR yang dilakukan itu hanya dengan ringkas sahaja.

9.Dan yang menimbulkan persoalan ialah, setahu penulis, setiap doktor tidak akan membuat sebarang prosedur, sentuhan atau pemeriksaan fizikal yang boleh menjejaskan sebarang bukti yang ada KECUALI jika Saiful malu, takut atau tidak berterus terang mulai daripada awal.

10. Dan jika doktor tersebut tahu tetapi meneruskan juga pemeriksaan anal (dubur) ke atas Saiful, ianya menunjukkan doktor tersebut telah melakukan kesalahan yang besar dan tidak boleh dimaafkan KECUALI jika doktor tersebut mempunyai niat yang lain seperti untuk mengada-adakan cerita atau pun menidakkan cerita!

11.Dalam konteks ini, doktor tersebut telah tersalah langkah.

12.Memeriksa anal (dubur) pesakit tetapi doktor telah diberitahu yang pesakit mengatakan dia diliwat adalah satu tindakan yang tidak profesional dan memalukan para doktor sekalian!

13.Cuma yang betul ialah doktor tersebut menasihatkan Saiful ke hospital kerajaan untuk pemeriksaan selanjutnya. Itu sahaja yang betul!

14. Dan yang menimbulkan satu persoalan lagi, hampir semua media termasuk media antarabangsa begitu cepat melaporkan isu ini TANPA mendapatkan kesahihan mengenai validity laporan kesihatan daripada Hospital Pusrawi.

15. Padahal, laporan tersebut tidak sekali-kali boleh dijadikan bukti untuk memaksa kerajaan menggugurkan kes liwat terhadap Anwar Ibrahim.

16. Dan yang menjadi mangsa sebenarnya ialah rakyat Malaysia kerana telah dikelirukan dan tidak mendapat gambaran yang sebenarnya mengenai isu ini.

17. Memang benar, jika sekali imbas, isu ini pasti nampak meyebelahi Anwar Ibrahim dan rakyat akan marah.

18. Padahal penulis pasti, Anwar Ibrahim sendiri tahu bahawa laporan tersebut tidak bermakna apa-apa pun jika di bawa ke mahkamah.

17. Seperti kata penulis, laporan kesihatan daripada Hospitak Pusrawi tidak valid sama sekali

Untuk rujukan:-


General Information

1. All patients should receive a complete head to toe physical examination
2. It is the patient’s right to consent or refuse any aspect of the exam and evidence collection
3. The patient may have a support person (relative, friend, or advocate) present during the exam
4. If suspected or known oral sodomy, it is preferable that the patient does not eat or drink before the exam, but the patient’s comfort should not be compromised to achieve this
· Oral swabs, for example, should be obtained immediately if patient
is thirsty or wishes to rinse mouth
5. Use powder free gloves and change gloves frequently during exam and evidence collection

Examination Technique

Perianal bruising, petechiae, edema, discharge, bleeding, tenderness, abrasions, lacerations, erythema, inflammation, and visible anal laxity

1. Use good light source
2. Use magnification with otoscope, visor, or colposcope
3. Separate anal folds to visualize injuries
4. Digital exam is not indicated, except if concern for foreign body retention
5. Anoscopy is indicated only if there is active rectal bleeding or rectal pain
6. Lubricant should be used for anoscopy. To avoid contamination by lubricant, perform anoscopy only AFTER FORENSIC SWAB COLLECTION
7. Apply Toluidine blue to identify abrasions on skin surface only AFTER FORENSIC SWAB COLLECTION

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Labels: Anwar Ibrahim, Hospital Pusrawi, Liwat

Anonymous said...

i guess that doc sudah lari balik ke kampongnya after collecting his july salary !

IBU said...

Salam Kak Ena

I shudder at the thought of my gynae that releasing my medical record to others...

I shudder at the thought of my medical record being made public without my consent ....

But then, I am just me, nowhere near 'public figure' identity.

But for the person who made it public for the so-called sake of transparency and counter conspiracy.... looks like this is bordering invasion of privacy oredi lorrrr....

Jgn ler kita terlalu taksub for or against anyone.... WaAllahualam...

Anonymous said...

this country has the misfortune of being ruled by idiots and, opposed by worse idiots.

dear Nuraina, why do let your blog be a pawn in this sandiwara that is directed by King Sodomee-of-all-Malaysian sandiwara and a true-Muslim-and-third-rate-fiction-writer wannabe?

example, "... According to Malaysiakini -- breaking news, "there is no evidence that Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan was sodomised, according to the doctor who examined him four hours before he lodged a police report alleging he was sexually assaulted by PKR leader Anwar Ibrahim."

nowadays, everything is according to Malaysiakini and "... according to Raja Petra of Malaysia Today, the doctor who examined Saiful on June 28, "has gone underground with his family" after he was detained by police for three days."

interestingly, where is the doctor?

nobody knows... how convenient... so, if nobody knows... all avenues are open to speculation, aren't they?

the devil's favourite playground.

and, have you seen the medical report?

now, assuming that the medical report is true... does anyone claim to understand what it meant?

remember, they don't have the cliche doctor's handwriting for nothing, you know.

apparently, the true-Muslim-and-third-rate-fiction-writer wannabe has suddenly turn doctor-handwriting expert complete with his spin... and, not too soon after his SD-expertise.

also, apparently, he and his King-Sodomee-of-all-Malaysian-sandiwara boss are popular... you read it all over the Malaysian internet scene.

just write anything about them... lo and behold... responses keep coming out of the woodwork!

but, do these cyber supporters of theirs really exist in real numbers in real life?

to all you real people out there... just ask your circle of friends... do you think King Sodomee-of-all-Malaysian sandiwara is a homo?

then, compare the result you get from the so-called internet poll results... by the way, in the internet poll, I could easily click 100 times using 100 different ISP's and and get paid USD100 for each click by someone who has over USD35 million to spare... perception has a price!

anyway, common sense would tell you that if the cyber supporters did exist, then the King Sodomee-of-all-Malaysian sandiwara would have stood for election faster than he could have gotten a Viagra-free erection!

why wait?

unless, the motive is to build up the perception of popularity.

remember the saying, tell one lie and you need another 10 lies to cover that first lie?"

well, after a while, it all becomes very confusing... so, seen anything similar happening in Malaysia lately?

so, Nuraina, again I'm asking you, why are allowing your blog to be dragged into this orchestrated confusion?

on the other hand, if I ruled this country I'd ISA them both and put them in the same cell... and, for good measure, I'd throw in Najib and let them have a nice MCOBA reunion.

however, I'd put Sleepyhead in a different cell because, as we all are acutely aware, he needs his sleep... after all, the sound of 3 guys buggering each other is not conducive to a good sleep.

and, to make myself really unpopular, I'd keep Azizah, Nurul and Rosmah under house arrest... in one small house, of course.

heck, as an afterthought, let's put Hadi, Karpal and Kit Siang (in alphabetical order) in the same cell and just call it Muhibah.

may Allah bless us all, ameeen.


Anonymous said...

And two pages of scribe free Anwar, dismantling high profile government!

Wait a minute!!!!

If this is a conspiracy why would Saiful visit an unbeknownst doctor and expect him to read saifuls mind so that he is supposed to forge a report favourable to Saiful's allegations....

Are all that dumb!!!

And if we claim to be an intellect, surely we more defining evidence and procedure to rule things out.

what about forensics report? and other element such as alibis, etc

this is so simple, and yet, why we are so easily fooled by Anwar?


Anonymous said...

You are spot on.
Ther are those who swear by the law or holy scriptures,
And they are those who swear by...MalaysiaToday!


Anonymous said...

See, i told you earlier that burmese dr. sudah lari balik kekampong after collecting his july pay on the 26th ! you think he has not heard of c4 or 3 ah !!