...sebelum isu ini menjadi lebih serius. Betul kata Karpal Singh.
Just say you're sorry for saying that thing that you said, and be done with it. And, oh yes, admit that you made a mistake.
It's no longer that you "allegedly" said. It's on Youtube.
You did say what you were accused of saying, as reported by Utusan Malaysia.
So, go sue Utusan Malaysia. I mean, really sue.
Mat Sabu who is PAS deputy president said at a ceramah in Penang on Aug 21 that the communist terrorists who attacked the Bukit Kepong police station in the 1950s were the true heroes of the country, not the policemen who defended the station because they were British officers.
I agree with NST columnist and peace activist Shamsul Akmar who wrote:
"Although Mat Sabu disparaged the Bukit Kepong policemen on grounds that they were working for the British, it did not make them any less heroic.
In fact, if the statistics and details of the fateful day of Feb 23, 1950 were to be of essence, how can a company of 200 CPM members attacking a police station and barracks defended by less than one tenth of the attackers be heroic?
Furthermore, if those killed included women and children (some burnt to death), what is so heroic of the CPM bandits who attacked Bukit Kepong?
By any count, it is the 20 odd policemen and their families who defended the station from the time the attack started at 5am until they were murdered and the station burnt to the ground. So who are the heroes.
The sheer fact that they were outnumbered and yet determined to hold their ground to the end, proved courage beyond compare in facing such extreme adversity."
I'm still wondering why he said what he said....
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No need to wonder Nuraina.. Mat Sabu is a fool and a bigger fool are PAS members who voted him as TP.. Buat malu Melayu aje!
Tolong dengar apa yang dia cakap dulu...
Oi pompuan, awk tak tau unjung pangkal percaya bulat2 berita pro umogok lepas tu suruh mat sabu mintak maaf, apa ke hal pompuan? Kalau awk semua yg pro amogok otak dah bebal, awk bebal lah sendiri, jgn ajak org lain ikut bebal, numb skull punya manusia lah awk nuraina.
I don't kno who is rite and who is wrong, but I do kno that the Shamsol piece is biased and has a lack of class. Akmar writes that those who attacked the police station were bandits. However, Akmar does not enlighten us, as to who is the PAYMASTER of the police. Were they being paid by the BRITISH, the invaders of Malaya. The commy who led , the attack was Mat Indera, an ISLAMIC ex school teacher. The Akmar article does not tell me if this Indera guy, threw away his religion to join the Commys or he joined them because they were fighting an INVASION force. A lot need to be clarified so that this and the coming generation will kno if this INDERA guy is a patriot or a traitor to his religion.
CIS DET
Datuk,
Since you were wondering why MS said what he said, kindly allow me to give my two-sen worth.
Controversies will invoke people into the subject. MS's real intention is to draw people's attention that the struggle for FMS independence was not exclusive to UMNO. MS wanted people to know about Mat Indera, who in his logic, should rank alongside Mat Kilau, Mat Kelantan and Tok Janggut (villains/heroes depending on which side you perceive).
The bottom line is: history is only the victor's account of the event. In MS's context - it has been UMNO's account (hence to UMNO, Malaysians should be perpetually thankful to only UMNO) - is something to dispel.
Right or wrong, the choice is ours.
sebelum berlakunya peristiwa bukit kepong.. kiyai Salleh telah pon bertindak terhadap Komunis..dimana Pihak komunis telah membunuh ramai ketua kampung dan ulamak.. hairan dengan sikap pemimpin Pas yang menyokong Komunis,sedangkan mereka diantara golongan yang pertama dalam list yang perlu dihapuskan jika memegang kuasa di tanah melayu..
So now the good guy is defined by the numbers of people you are fighting with? The bigger the number the better? Rather whether you are freedom fighter or the British dog used to subjugate the population?
Dear Nuraina,
Let me answer the last question, so you can be left not wondering anymore. It's actually quite easy - he (Mat Sabu) said what he said because, you're ready for this...hmmphh, because he's dumb, an idiot and plain stupid. There! I've made my peace - now, we all can go on with our lives!
anon@8:21PM: saya rasa saya dah dengar isi ucapan beliau. dan buat masa ni saya tahu bahwa peguam beliau sudah arahkan beliau jangan bercakap apa2 lagi..
anon@11:05PM: kamu bukan macam orang bodoh. memang bodoh dan pengecut ni.
Cis det: does it matter if this indera guy abandoned Islam or whatever. i don't think it has to be explained further the role of the communist terrorists in the history of malaya and then malaysia.
anon@5:44AM:you know, the history of the country was not written by Umno. it was never Umno's account.
Mat Sabu ni golongan yang tak baca buku, buta sejarah.
Cis Det,
As much as you accused Shamsul as biased, I believe you're like the pot calling the kettle black yourself (or is it the other way around?).
The paymaster of the policeman? Wow, you really dig deep to embarrass yourself. The British payrolled these frontliner policemen to maintain peace and safety of people. You may accuse that they hired these innocent souls to safeguard their interest. Now tell me what interest did the British has in KAMPUNG Bukit Kepong? Was it their last bastion, was there any national treasure, was there any mines that provide wealth to them? Nada. Like many other policemen all over the country, they worked hard to put some food on the table, while protecting and safeguard YOUR FOREFATHERS' well-being, not the BRITISH!
And INVASION FORCE? Haha nice self-coined term / joke. Did you ever go to school? (pardon the rudeness, but I really do curious). Did you know when was Malaya first "invaded"? Haven't you heard about all those Perjanjians, Negeri-negeri Selat, Negeri-negeri Bersekutu? Do you know that Bukit Kepong is in Johor, and Johor has such special relationship with British? Do you really think Johor was ever "invaded" by British? Do you know the difference between GOVERNING and your self-coined "INVASION" FORCE?
I bet for such an ignorant like you, you don't. Please stop using the monicker CIS DET, as if you're trying to pull the limelight from CHE DET. You are on the different end of the spectrum from that great statesman.
For once, I really pity you.
So wrote the MORON CIS DET@11.50PM;
"However, Akmar does not enlighten us, as to who is the PAYMASTER of the police. Were they being paid by the BRITISH, the invaders of Malaya."
What the moron doesn't know however, 18 months before the bloody siege took place,three local village folks (armed with knives)fought with three communist insurgents and killed one of them.
The moron also obviously ignorant of the fact that out of the 25 who died on that day, 4 were Bukit Kepong's village folks and A HOUSEWIFE who also participated in the fighting.
That's right, common village folks and housewives!
So did those people work for the British paymaster?
In fact, there were over 250,000 village folks who VOLUNTEERED as home guards - male, female, old, young - all across Malaya, and they sure as hell didn't receive a cent from the British paymaster.
So the DUMB logic that morons like CIS DET chose to believe is that those heroic 25 people who died in the siege GAVE UP their lives for the British paymaster.
Despite assurance from the communists that they will be unharmed if they lay down their weapons, they CONTINUED to fight to their death.
WHY?
To protect the so called British paymaster?
Did I mention that among the 25 brutally killed, 3 were children.
Truly, DUMBNESS has no boundary...
So the million dollar question is, WAS MAT INDERA A HERO?
To answer the question, I'm going to ask another question.
What will happen to our country had Mat Indera and his comrades succeeded in their bloody campaign to topple British Imperialism in Malaya?
Would CPM then gleefully hand over Malaya to the likes of Mat Indera, Abdullah CD and Shamsiah Fakeh so that they could DECLARE an independent Malaya?
LIKE HELL THEY WOULD!
Chin Peng and his cohorts would have immediately declared Malaya as a Socialist Republic state. Ching Peng would have been made the Chairman or the Communist Party and would have been WORSHIPED and REVERED like they did Chairman Mao in China and Kim Il Sung in North Korea.
Then he would have probably introduced a collectivization program that would have starved us all to death like what Mao dan Pol Pot did to their countries. Pious Muslims like Mat Indera would be sent to RE-EDUCATION camps so that they will learn that there is only one divine authority that WE ALL ANSWER TO;
THE DAMN COMMUNIST PARTY!
So gentlemen, the above is what that could have transpired had OUR SO CALLED PIOUS HERO Mat Indera HAD succeeded in his quest.
Cehh, ex Islamic school teacher konon...
I believe in seeing both side of the coin first...hope you too Dato.
http://bm.harakahdaily.net/index.php/articles/tamu-a-wawancara/5232-ucapan-mohamad-sabu-tentang-komunis#.TmSpFOxYNgU.blogger
superman.
Mat Sabu bukan sekadar patut minta maaf. Dia patut pi belajar Sejarah dulu.. huhu. Kalau tak nak belajar Sejarah, sila tulis buku Sejarah dia sendiri.
Kalau nak bercakap tentang sejarah, bukan dengan cara ambil 'a bit here and there' lepas tu cakap atas pentas politik.. Kalau berani tulis sejarahlah and defend!.
Bahlol punya orang politik, kalau semua benda nak komen untuk kepentingan politik diri, wal hal diri sendiri pun tak ada ilmu.
Orang suroh pi ngaji tak mau...
Oh ya, jangan berangan bahawa semua guru agama berjuang untuk agama, penipu dan tertipu pun ramai, kaki liwat dan diliwat pun ramai, kaki scam pun banyak. So, jangan sembunyi disebalik gelaran 'guru agama'. Buat malu 'guru agama' aje....
I'm also wondering why Mat Sabu said what he said.However, Mat Sabu is no fool.Note that the Johore Goverment has listed Mat Indera as a hero .Also note that the accusation that he was a communist was by the British Colonial government then.Note also that the incidence happened in 1950.A truthful account of the unfortunate incidence should be provided by professional historians.The film version is just that....a film version!
I suspect because mat sabu want to take malaysia by revolution.
Chin Peng in his book my side of history mentioned that both local and international factors should be favorable for a revolution to take place.
Internationally many revolutions are taking place now.
Hence locally mat sabu strive to agitate the masses and reinforce the revolutionary idea to his supporter.
Ahmad Albab
Good piece Homophobic, but unfortunately those losers from the ITM drop out surely could/would not digest it...hahahaha...that's why la Dato. Simple as that, in other words he is just plain stupid.
BILLYtheKID
Mat Sabu made this statement: Mat Indra (who attacked Bkt Kepong police station) is the real hero who fought for independence..." and many people were REPORTED to be very unhappy and wanted Mat Sabu to retract it. Very serious ma...
Now I make this statement: Dr Mahathir Mohd (who ridiculed the Malay Rulers to the hilt during the 1993 constitutional crisis and who lied when he said that Anwar inflicted his own injury when it was later proved that Rahim Noor the coward man did it, and till now Mahathir never apologised!!) has done much for the development of Malaysia. Now does anyone want me to retract my statement that Mahathir had done much for Malaysia? It's always interesting to watch how people, including self-proclaimed professors of history, behave.
from: Prof Khoo Ann Jing (not related to Khoo Kay Kim)
sejarah boleh dipusing mengikot kehebdak kite...org the winner write the history...apepon...PKM bukan lah hero..mat indera ke ape ke...walaupon Polis itu dikaitkan dgn penjajah british...ingat nk merdeka snang ker...walaupon kamu xsuke umno...jgn la kamu hina org yg memperjuangkan kemerdekaan dulu...kamu senang lenang sekarang sebab mereka dulu...mak indera masok komunis...dan komunis run rampage dengan bunuh org...sedikit sebyk keputusan beliau untuk masok komunis adalah xbgus walaupon dia belajar agama...tgk badawi..blajar syariah tuu...tgk ape jd...so..education xpenting ..tgk ape die buat..
Mat Sabu only got to say sorry to King George, la. He was ruling Malaya in 1950.
Balai polis was flying Union Jack and every day nyanyi God Save the Queen. Duit also ada gambar King George besides hanging on the balai polis walls.
Maybe PM went to Britain recently to apologise on behalf of Mat Indera to Queen Elizabeth for raiding their British fort?
Apa Mat Sabu kata tu betui lah cek ooi. Tn/Pn tau ka Mat Sabu ni sebenarnya Bapa dia keturunan Komunis. Sebab tu dia kenalah sokong perjuangan bapa dia. Kesian kat dia. Tapi kalau lah masa tu jumpa kat aku aku picik hidung Mat Sabu ni bagi mampui.Mapui lama dah. Tengok muka macam ni yang Pas ambil jadi Timbalan Presiden . Presiden Komunis Malaysia. Tak sangka dalam Pas pun ada Komunis. Malulah sikit orang Pas. Ada Ulama hampa pi buang. Hampa p ambil Komunis jadi Timbalan Presiden. inilah satu2nya melayu yang sedar diri. Jadi alat DAP Lim Guan Eng Komunis. Keturunan Mat Sabu mengaji di Sekolah mana. Kalau kami jadi keturunan dia malu mampui. Baik hampa p dok dalam hutan jadi Komunis ikut Tok wan Hampa. Patut Mat Sabu ni kena masuk dalam ISA. Eloklah hang kawan dgn Aljuburi Anwaris.Hidup Pas.Takbir.
mar sbu org politik bodoh
bukit kepong event happened in 1950. We were still colonised by the british at that time so those policemen were really working for the british...how can we call these people hero for malaysia for defending essentially the brits' interest?
I read in The Star yesterday (10/9) that Khoo Kay Khim said: The British never ruled this country. They just took over the administration ...
I've never come across a statement as stupid as this, what more from a (so-called) history professor. The bottom line is who called the shots... and this is the party (I don't mean a political party here)
that ruled Malaya. I'm sure he is not stupid but he tried to please the BN Govt. O my god. Aren't you ashamed of your professorship?
from: prof kang kung
mat sabu bukan cendiakiawan...bukan profesional..bukan alim ulamak..
dia hanyalah badut sahaja...\\\
ape pulak kami generasi baru mau tabik dia...piiiiiirahhh
mat sabu..teruskn mencerca mat sabu
jangan berhenti..
kami generasi baru tidak dapat menerimanya...
kami haram kan tanah air ini untuknya dan sukusakatnya..
mat sabu...kami sumpah laknat terhadapmu..
Salam Sejahtera. Orang berakal tinggi budi bahasanya. Orang bijak tahu membuat penilaian tanpa prejudis dan bersikap saksama. Kebenaran itu selalunya pahit untuk ditelan melainkan kita berjiwa mulia dan tidak ego. Perjuangan untuk menegak keadilan perlu lahir dari hati yang jujur dan sentiasa akur dengan syariat Allah swt bukan berdasarkan bisikan syaitan dan kehendak hawa nafsu yang serakah. Daripada : ASHINTURA.
yes. no denying our history that during the Bukit Kepong tragedy, Malaya was under British rule. The policemen -- as all policemen of any country, colonialised or not -- worked to protect the peace and security for the people. for the rakyat. they had no choice. no one had a choice...altho every malayan at that time yearned for freedom from colonialism or penjajahan. the policemen were malayans. the attackers were communists. they attacked the policemen as well as executed their hostages -- women and children-- not to free malaya but to seize malaya for their communist masters.
that is history. written. proven.
you may not like the government of the day, but, you must draw the line when attacking it.
now mat sabu no need to apologise. the govt must apologise coz majlis profesor malaysia (MPN) said the british never ruled malaya/malaysia. "they just took over its admin. only". so there is no pejuang kemerdekaan after all. history books must be rewritten and malaysia must withdraw from commonwealth as it is meant for those under the british rule at one time.
from: historiography expert
History mistory mystery. The truth has three truthful versions: yours, mine and the actual truth but I sure heard that mamat spoke favorably about the commies who's idealogy includes menolak sebarang pemahaman dan pegangan ugama. So PAS? So faux. Mamat ni dok kena dan dibuai Anwar hingga tak boleh pikiaq. Appadaaa...
Tak macam ayah dia Pak Samad - nasionalis dan anti british. dunia, dunia - anak perempuannya jadi penjilat british --british licker
borhan,
a pity that you can come out with such remarks!
read from the paper today that tunku abd rahman's family is toying with the idea of suing mat sabu for belittling the tunku's role in fighting for independence. firstly the family must sue majlis profesor malaysia (MPN) cos they said malaysia was never ruled by the british so no independence and therefore no fighters for independence. mat sabu only said that some other parties must also be credited for fighting for independence whereas MPN doesn't recognise any independence fighter for the simple reason that the british never ruled malaysia and therefore no need for independence.
from: sue jangan tak sue.
Borhan (or could it be Lim Bor Han?),
I don't personally know Nuraina, but if you made such statement towards a decent woman, then you deserved to be called a man-whore. A coward with twisted testicles colonised by warts.
Be a gentleman - if you can't, just be an idiot. But never ever bring shame upon your mother who brought you up (bukan salah ibu mengandung kalau anak yg dididik jadi bangang kecut takde telor), with such statement.
Pardon my rudeness.
Ramai penyokong komunis marah kat awak nuraina.....tapi teruskan usaha mendidik minda bangsa..
..tapi teruskan usaha mendidik minda bangsa..
why thank you, homophobic...
walau apa pun pandangan kita terhadap kenyataan mat sabu itu, ia masih tidak menjawab soalan sah dan jujur yang dikemukakannya dalam ceramahnya itu, iaitu kenapakah sambutan hari merdeka kita tidak meriah dan merata seperti negara thai dan indonesia?
bagi saya, jika kita benar-benar jujur dan prihatin tentang kemerdekaan negara dan perjuangan serta pengorbanan para pejuangnya - biar siapa pun mereka - maka soalan inilah yang perlu kita dijawab sekali gus berbuat sesuatu, bukannya heboh dengan lain-lain isu sampingan yang semakin mengesahkan kekosongan jiwa kita sebagai sebuah negara dan bangsa merdeka - hakikat yang menjadi kebimbangan asasi dan pertama mat sabu dalam isu ini sebelum ia disensasikan oleh media enam (6) hari selepas ucapannya itu dibuat.
syed putra syed ahmad
temerloh, pahang.
waa .., so many said MatSabu bodohlah, tak baca buku sejarahlah, komunis pun lah, etclah tapi "orang bodoh" ini berjaya mencetus satu polemik besar yang mempunyai legitimasi berkait sejarah negara yang melibatkan hampir seluruh lapisan masyarakat termasuk profesor2 tak kira kangkung atau sawi.
Cuma satu mahu ingat.
Bangsa Melayu sebenarnya bukanlah pemain besar dalam sejarah ketamadunan dan peradaban dunia. Bangsa Melayu hanyalah terkesan (side effects) atau ketidaksengajaan (accidental) dalam permainan kuasa politik global turun-temurun.
Hanya apabila Islam terpakai pada susuk bangsa Melayu - barulah bangsa itu memiliki keberadaan yang sah lagi sahih sebagai pemain penting percaturan kuasa politik dunia.
Dan perkara ini sebenarnya telah lama berlaku.
Ia menjadi kabur dan keliru akibat kelemahan diri sendiri.
Orang yang tidak mahu mengaku kesilapan tidak akan tahu membetulkannya.
So, Nuriana yang agak jelita walau sudah agak berusia - don't continue to be part of the problem, be part of the solution ma.
Wahai Mat Sabun(PENYOKONG KUAT KOMUNIS MALAYA) Aljuburi. Hand sendiripun x minta maaf dengan mulut x kumok hang tu nak suruh Kerajaan Malaysia minta sebab ISA dimansuhkan. Lepas tu nak minta pampasan pulak tu. Aku rasa orang lain yang kena tahanan ISA x loqat macam hang tu. Aku ingat hang tu sengket sangat pasai tu hang nak minta pampasan. Hang tu mau p taubat buang dengan pemohong hang tu. hang tu x layak jadi pemimpin. Hang kena hantaq p dok dengan Royal London Circus baru kena. MUSIBAT 44. Macamana Tok Guru nak laksana Hukum Hudud ada Komunis dalam PAS. lepas tu kena rujuk pula kat DAP bapak segala Komunis LGE dengan Benggali Cacat (LANGKAH MAYAT SAYA DULU). Pada pandangan saya PAS x memperjuangkan Islam lagi dah. Bukan lagi AD'DIN dok ligan ADDUN. (Slogan PRU 13) PAS DULU AKHIRAT PAS SEKARANG DUNIA. Inilah slogan yang sesuai bagi PAS masakini. takbir""""
Wahai org org kuat PAS hampa tengok Nik Aziz punya nak cover line Mat Sabun muka ala ala Komunis tu ada. Tau dah kali ni Kelate nak kena alih PRU13 jadi TOk Guru Mursondol General pun katalah kito kena jale hukume hudud di Kelate. kononnya. punya nak pancing undi orang orang Kelate. Taku kaloh jadi kawe kena jale juga hukume hudud. Kawe nak jale hukume hudud Singh ngan Ah Eng ungut kawe. Kawe dah tua takut kawe keno simbah asid mampuh kawe.jadi kawe tengoh pikir nak mohong kot mano. Nak minto nasihak Aljuburi pun tak leh diapong jubur tak cuci. kawe pening pikir. Nak masuk facebook pong kawe x pandai. Kawe ni waye sajo. sebenaknyo kawe ni sahabat baik ngan Ah Eng ngan Singh tu. Mu Rakyat Kelate kena tipu. Buku Jinggo tu bukan kawe yang reka kawan kawe DAP yang reka. Minta Maaf lah orang@ Kelate yoo. Kawe ni ingat2 lupo.
Salam. Agaknya kebanyakan komunis yg serang bukit kepong tu lahir di Kepulauan Melayu? Rasanya tidak. Adakah komunis ni ingin memperluaskan jajahan Komunis China, macamm mereka menjajah tibet?
You want to know why Mat Sabu come with this controversial statement?
Give him coverage in NST (make special interview ka?)la then you will know why..
urgh.. btw saya percaya itu tidak akan berlaku..
bagus hang tau dia tak grad ITM. Tapi korang tentu nak tahu kursus apa..
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