Saturday, May 10, 2008

PM Hopes For Swift Action On Karpal...

Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi said Friday he hoped that the Attorney-General would be able to act immediately on the issue of DAP chairman Karpal Singh's questioning of the jurisdiction of the Sultan of Perak in the issue of the transfer of Perak Islamic Religious Affairs Department director Datuk Jamry Sury.

He said that if the Attorney-General felt that there was a case, he should bring the matter to court as soon as possible.

"It is my hope that he will act fast," he told reporters after chairing a special meeting of the Umno Supreme Council at the Putra World Trade Centre (PWTC), in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.

The prime minister said the action has to be immediate because the issue is being followed with great interest by many people.

"Many people are showing interest in the issue. (They want to know) what the penalty is in the matter," he said.

Asked whether the Internal Security Act (ISA) would be used against Karpal Singh, Abdullah said: "If the ISA were used, he would have been detained a long time ago. We have not used it (on him)."

Karpal Singh had said that the Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah, had no jurisdiction to reinstate Jamry who was transferred out by Perak Menteri Besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin.

The sultan had instructed Mohammad Nizar to reinstate Jamry as he had been transferred out without the consent of the sultan as the head of the Islamic religion in the state.

The prime minister had yesterday instructed Umno to lodge a police report against Karpal Singh over his remark which was said to border on treason and had incited anger in the Malays.

The police have so far received nine reports against Karpal Singh, the MP for Bukit Gelugor, over his remark. Among these are one by Umno secretary-general Datuk Seri Tengku Adnan Mansor Thursday and Malaysian Youth Council secretary-general Tajudin Ahmad yesterday. -- Bernama

28 comments:

ray111 said...

aha, something fishy about having the pm to urge ag to expedite investigation into YB Karpal Singh.
i though the ag has to wait fir police to complete investigation and wait for police investigation paper then only the ag can decide if there is any case before they can charged anyone? what is the pm trying to do or prove? He thinks he can polically assasinate a learned lawyer? I am sure YB Karpal Singh knows what he is talking about and i am sure he can win over the case if any easily! shame on you pm for using such low hand tactics!!!! As TUN M said- Tak Malu ke?

Melayu Jati said...

Kak Nuraina,

Silalah baca rencana berikut di dalam New Strait Times, bertarikh 10 Mei 2008. Harap semua pihak dapat memahami arah hujah En. Karpal Singh, sebelum mengkritik. Ini kerna adalah wajar untuk kita melihat dan pertimbangkan pandangan dan argumen kedua-dua belah pihak.

http://tinyurl.com/4s733r

KUALA LUMPUR: DAP chairman Karpal Singh maintained yesterday that he had not questioned the prerogative of the Sultan of Perak. He said his statements concerning the Sultan's power to revoke the transfer of a state civil servant was purely a legal issue.

Karpal said he was not perturbed over the numerous police reports lodged against him.

"I have committed no offence and those making reports against me should be prepared to face the consequences of lodging false reports," he said at a press conference here yesterday.

"I will not be intimidated by anyone or any quarter.
"I stand by what I have said because the truth must prevail at all times" the Bukit Gelugor Member of Parliament said.

Karpal said he had in no way questioned the prerogative of the Sultan of Perak as head of Islam in the state.

He reiterated that in his view the Sultan had no jurisdiction to direct the state government to reinstate Perak Islamic Religious Department director Datuk Jamry Sury, who was a state government servant.

He said that in Pengarah Pelajaran Wilayah Persekutuan & Others v Loot Ting Yee, the Federal Court decided that a civil servant liable to transfer did not have a right to be heard as a transfer does not amount to dismissal or reduction in rank.

The principles in the decision applied equally to state civil servants, Karpal said.

"I fail to understand why there has been such an uproar on what is purely a legal issue backed by the Privy Council in London, which was until 1985, the highest court in Malaysia."

He threatened legal action against those who made defamatory remarks against him regarding the issue.

In George Town, DAP secretary-general and Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng defended Karpal, saying the party chairman was merely stating a case in law and had done nothing wrong.

He instead accused Barisan Nasional leaders of taking a selective approach and practising double standards.

Deputy Chief Minister I Mohammad Fairus Khairuddin of Parti Keadilan Rakyat said he would leave it to the leadership of the DAP and PKR to address the issue.

He said the Malay members of PKR always respected the palace.

"The issue should not be politicised. It is best for the Perak government and palace to resolve the issue," Mohammad Fairus said.

su-kj said...

A.kum Kak Aina,

1. Ini sama saja dengan apa yang dilakukan oleh PDRM.

2. Bila mereka 'fail' untuk atasi masalah mat rempit, maka mereka nak dakwa orang ramai yang menjadi penonton pulak.

3. So, nak pinda pula seksyen 42 (A) Akta Pengangkutan Jalan 1987 supaya boleh dakwa penonton. Aiya ini macam ka ?

http://www.penyokong-kj.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

PM, Tengku, MPs - nine reports?
Were you so Swift when the little children were kidnapped?
Were you so Swift when Mongolian girl was blown up?
Were you so Swift when the floods buried Johor?
Were you so Swift when burglary rampagne in our community?
Were you so Swift as the car-jacking killers run free?
When were you so Swift ....
This leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I want to spit it out. Hope none of you are around when I do.

Anonymous said...

Did you hear about the poor girl stabbed 4 times! in broad daylight as she walked to work in Cheras? This is the sorry state of affairs in our country right now. Where are all the police? Oh yes, 60 of them busy writing the 9 police reports against Karpal, 7 of them at Raja Petra house, 100 of them at Dataran Merdeka candlelight vigil, half dozen over at Razak Baginda house, 500 driving around looking for pocket money, 80 of them beating up Bandar Mahkota Cheras residents and MP, ... need I go on?

Husin Lempoyang said...

Buat pertama kali, Husin menyokong tindakan Pak Lah.

Tetapi jangan salah faham, Husin belum cium tangan lagi.

Anonymous said...

"Many people are showing interest in the issue. (They want to know) what the penalty is in the matter," he said.

Badawi has presumed Kapal guilty already.

Anonymous said...

Dear Kak Aina,

I really do not know the difference/gravity between "Karpal's statement on our monarchies" and "the young boy from Johor's (who was eventually arrested) statment in reply to Karpal's remark about Islam". In the case of the young boy, he was merely citing a provision (correct me if I am wrong)stated in the Qu'ran for those you cause emnity and hatred towards Islam.

Lawyers, especially Syarie conversant lawyers, please come forward for an explanation. You may write in Bahasa Malaysia if you wish. I'd consider this issue as wajib to be replied by those who are knowledgeable.

Thanks Kak Aina.

Zaib

Texas said...

When will PM request the AG to investigate all those who insulted the Sultan of Terengganu and Sultan of Perlis in the appointment of the respective MBs?

Amen said...

YES. being did not discuss with PR others party members!! act like smart asshole........he MUST BE CHARGED

Anonymous said...

Karpal Singh, MP, LLB, Advocate & Solicitor, was explaining the law. Maybe some people cannot stand him being right on almost everything but that is hardly grounds for alleging his views on the rights of a civil servant amount to sedition. What the Sultan was concerned about was that this civil servant was also a secretary of a committee chaired by him and that his transfer would affect that position. hence his titah ("command"). Whether the sultan's view is correct or incorrect is a matter to be decided in the courst if the civil servant choses to exercise his right for a review.

Remember that the sultan can reign but does not rule. A "saving" in the State laws that it does not affect his rights or privileges was a device used by the British to achieve this end. The legal effect is that such rights were taken away, leaving behind illusory ideas that the sultan was supreme (see articles and books by late Prof Ahmad Ibrahim and other Malaysian academics on the constitution etc. Remember also that the Federal Constitution is the "supreme law" of Malaysia and can and does overide any provisions to the contrary in any state law). However a sultan's judgement can always be questioned if done in a civil and considered manner. That does not amount to biadap in any culture.

Indeed it is a mark of a confident and law abiding society that this can happen. If however, Mr Karpal Singh is alleged to be rude to the sultan, that can hardly amount to sedition. Many BN leaders are regularly guilty of being "kurang ajar" to all and sundry in the high handed manner theya ddress issue. Please grow up and donot bring shame to Malaysia anymore. I am not registered with any of the OpenID bodies so I will just use the name "Anon".

Old Fart said...

Yes sure!..he wants wift action on this most thretening of statments by Karpal. Yet he twitddled his thumbs and went to sleep when the Lingam video came out.

He just does not know from this alone what is what is not important. He does not know how to prioritise. and yet we let him lead this country.

Yes, while we get gobbled up by vermins and plunderers our leader who ought to be able to respond fast enough will be sleeping on his job. He will need to look at consequences to his position, that of UMNO's and so on before he will respond to any clear and present danger. Feel sorry for myself already.

Anonymous said...

I did not regret voting Pakatan Rakyat on 08 March 08. I confirm that I shall be voting Pakatan Rakyat again in the next general election. Period.

bayi said...

I can differentiate the trees from the forests.

Be what it may, I will still vote for Pakatan Rakyat during the next elections.

The BN government had in the past committed so many mortal sins against the rakyat that make us look like fools. Pakatan is new and even if this is a mistake, we can overlook a few here and there.

At least our money is still in good hands!

Wakmasnoor said...

Read my take on the same issue at:
http://www.masnoorwak.blogspot.com/

...in a different enlightenment and prospect of course.

Anonymous said...

Ask the PM to act on TDM 1st for not showing respect to the Raja in 1983, thousands of UMNO members says things that hurt the Raja then. Please act of UMNO first, the Rajas had not forgotten.

man botak @ botak chin said...

i fully support whatever pak lah wants to do. even if is highly detrimental to the country. after dozing off ever so often, it is a wonder that he can actually comprehend the happenings around him. i have to salute "budak2 tingkat 4" for being able to digest and given excellent advise to this dozing old man. oxford is indeed a wonder-place to send your kids.

only the best goes to oxford and graduate from there. since none (please correct me) of the other MPs are from oxford, these bbt4 must be overworked as they (and only they) are able to give such brilliant advise. sheer brilliance cannot describe my admiration to these individuals.

oops, i was told that pak lah's son-in-law is from oxford too. no wonder i notice something different about him. i wish he had contested in urban areas & try convince the "educted-but-not-from-oxford" voters! it should be "kacang putih" for him. dont you agree with me?

Anonymous said...

Dear Nuraina,

Remember the incident in March 2008where UMNO supporters were protesting in front of the Terengganu Istana in regards to the appointment of the new MB. There was a Banner calling the Istana "Natang". What happen with the police investigation?

alfakir1 said...

Pendapat saya berlainan

Karpal tidak menghina Sultan
Dia hanya mempertikaikan kuasa istana
Memanglah salah Karpal kalau di pandang dari sudut kekusasan istana

Tetapi, kenapa tiada polis reports di buat terhadap
1. AAB pertikaikan terhadap appointment Terengganu MB oleh
YM Agong Terengganu
2. Ex Terengganu MB dan kuncu2 nya menghina YM Agong "natang"
3. AG mempertikaikan perlantikan Terengganu MB oleh YM Agong

Mengapa menteri2, ahli2 BN dan NGO diam sahaja?

Nampak sangat Umno dan badan2 yang berkenaan Double Standard

Yang memburukkan lagi kedudukan perkara ialah 9 polis reports terhadap Karpal. Lagi sekali, nampak sangat kebencian pemimpin2 Umno dan NGO kepada Karpal (OKU)hingga AAB suruh AG mempercepatkan tuduhan sedition terhadap Karpal.

A very cruel act by Umno if that's really happen to Karpal

Wahai orang2 yang terlibat dalam kes ini
Ingatlah dan takutlah akan Allah, walau pun Karpal bukan umat Islam, tetapi dia itu juga makhluk Allah di bumi ini.

Janganlah menggunakan kuasa kita sesuka hati sampai menganyiaya dengan tuduhan sedition.

Tunjukkan lah nilai2 Islam yang tinggi lagi murni terhadap makhluk, tidak kira apa bagsa dan berlaku 'adil.

Sifat angkuh dan zalim itu adalah amalan iblis.

Indeed, the sin of Iblis (Satan) was his arrogant refusal to humble himself to the will of Allah. He believed himself of elevated status - better than any other creation - and he continues to whisper to us, encouraging our pride, arrogance, love of wealth and status.

We must always remember that we are nothing - we have nothing - except what Allah blesses us with. We can do nothing of our own power.

In English, the word "humility" comes from the Latin root word which means "ground." Humility, or being humble, means that one is modest, submissive and respectful, not proud and arrogant.

You lower yourself to the ground, not elevate yourself above others. In prayer, Muslims prostrate themselves to the ground, acknowledging human beings' lowliness and humility before the Lord of the Worlds.

Anonymous said...

Dear Ina ...

Let KS face the music .... he should be responsible for his doings. Let him mince his words.

He 'putar-belit'ed a lot... when he wakes up in the morning he will say something, noon he will chatter the same thing but with different note, and before going to bed he will utter, mutter and blabber different things!

If he did not like Malaysia, let him decide to go to any country in this world or the better place, go back to India....let him fights in Kashmir!!!

mad said...

another stupid decision by pak lah which further proves that he really does not belong at the helm, dozing off notwithstanding. the terengganu mb fiasco is still fresh on our minds. voting for pr really was the right choice after all.

isyak said...

What about another new perspective to it:

""Its a purely legal issue", says Karpal. But when the Agong refused to accept the PM's advise to accept Idrus Jusoh as the MB of Trengganu. He never highlighted that the Agong was also going beyond the law. Now, he has infuriated the Perak Sultan has overstepped his legal duty. Why? Because he never was and is still not interested in the legal issues (same issue at that) then. Why? Is Karpal a legal man first or a politician first? Possible conclusions: Karpal becomes legally interested only when the opposition at risk. When the nation is at risk, does he care? Is he a legal person in his value or is he simply anti-malay? Or dare we think that he is anti-islam?"

20 Cent said...

"Many people are showing interest in the issue. (They want to know) what the penalty is in the matter," he [Prime Minister] said.

That's the problem with our idiotic politicians. They're nothing more than a bunch of glorified bullies.

They aren't in the public eye for anyone except themselves, and they look at punishments a common recourse whenever they're threatened.

Wusses.

IZWAN said...

Nonsense....When the goverment questioning YDP Agong Sultan Mizan why he appointed Ahmad Said AS Terengganu MB after election, why all those stupid minister didn't make a report to the Police haa???
Tapi apabila seorang India bercakap, mereka menjadi sangat racist dan agresif.. Minda kelas ke-3 adalah pemimpin UMNO dan sekutu-kutunya....Cerminlah diri...

isyak said...

20cent: "That's the problem with our idiotic politicians. They're nothing more than a bunch of glorified bullies. They aren't in the public eye for anyone except themselves."

You DO know you are generalizing ALL politicians regardless of party right? Which in my opinion is true, ahli politik sampai bila pun ahli politik. For orang2 yang so confident about PR leaders out there, here's a thought. Give them time and they will show this generalized streak that all politicians have too.

Anonymous said...

Pak Lah why did you not direct AG to charge all those
who questioned The Sultan of Trengganu and Raja Of Perlis on the Appointment of MBs.

TWO LAWS ONE FOR UMNO AND ONE FOR THE REST
IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO RETIRE LAH

mad said...

isyak said -"You DO know you are generalizing ALL politicians regardless of party right? Which in my opinion is true, ahli politik sampai bila pun ahli politik. For orang2 yang so confident about PR leaders out there, here's a thought. Give them time and they will show this generalized streak that all politicians have too."

then we swith to whatever other party of the day that promises clean and transparent governance. it's that simple. this is a democratic country right? for me, i don't care which party is ruling as long as they take good care of the people and clean of corruption and right now bn doesn't seem to be that party since, oh i would say 20 years ago. wish pr was here when i was 20 years younger but it's not too late for change.

suaramalaysia said...

another rocky-balboa comeback fight by umno and barisan goons? how pathetic to clutch at a non-issue and turn it into a racial, religous, anti-Malay, anti-Sultan, and anti-royal fiasco.

Karpal should stick to his guns and take the whole filthy shebang down the ketuanan melayu septic tank. this is another fabrication that umno manufactures as fact inorder to get mileage and support for its losing support among Malays and its Barisan cronies.

this so-called fight for the Malays and royalty is not fooling anyone accept those Malays on the umno and barisan payroll. like slippery hyeanas on a crumbling mountain ridge these bloodlusty howling umnoputras long for the cresent moon to scoop them up to jenna.

the heat is on and the umnoputras need a strong delusion to divert the eyes of the rakyat from the mounting filth and corrupt tradition that is been unearthed daily.

this time the rakyat is not going to be distracted, and it will cause the whole pack to be swallowed up in the traps they set for others.

it is time for all right-thinking malaysians to stand with Karpal so that royal sultans of swing won't overide the law and constitution of the country. after raping the country and its treasures, umno should not be allowed to subdue sultans to become their office boys.

let us not remain silent with the double-standards practised by umno and its barisan concubines. they are blatantly guilty of humilating the royalty on various occasions and the sword should fall first on their corrupt heads before anyone else.

let justice and the rule of law not be eclipsed by a corrupt umno-driven regime. stand up and overcome their on-going deceit and propaganda.