We all believe in second chances.
The Prime Minister Najib Razak -- in a nutshell -- feels the same way about former Negeri Sembilan Menteri Besar Isa Abdul Samad. The guy deserves a second chance because he has paid his dues.
More importantly, the people of Bagan Pinang want him and accept him. He can serve the constituency effectively. He is popular and he can retain the state constituency for the Barisan Nasional.
I hear the rumblings already. That while Isa can help win the by-election, Umno's choice of him as Bagan Pinang candidate will be counterproductive in the run-up to PRU13.
You win the battle but you lose the war.
That's true too. But then again.....
Anyway, do we all really believe in second chances?
Do you?
You start off with :
ReplyDeleteWe all believe in second chances.
Then you end by asking:
Anyway, do we all really believe in second chances?
Do you?
I would like to know what you,as a SoPo blogger think? Throwing the question at us makes you a fence-sitter. What's the matter? No wish to offend anybody? Tsk, Tsk.
-McD de Louvre
Well, it's the same with ex-convicts. They already did their time but the stigma still remains. Should our society condemn ex-criminals for eternity? Let's ask ourselves this question: Would we feel safe to allow them to do housework in our home when they may be struggling to make an honest living for a meagre sum but trying their darnest to turn into a new leaf. It would be a moral struggle inside us...
ReplyDeleteOf course, when you throw politics in, it's different. All politicians should not be trusted! *chuckle*
Maybe, Isa was only doing what the Romans do and he was the unlucky fish that got caught in the ocean. Whether he has truly repent, it's not up to us mortals to judge...
How about a second wife ? everyone need a second chance right ?
ReplyDeleteif you repent, yes.
ReplyDeleteFor his fella, I don't think so.
No one escapes the smear net cast by the rebels in disguise.
ReplyDeleteIn Isa's case, they harp on his punishment but choose to ignore the fact that Anwar and Lim GE were criminals on record.
They magnify faults of others but deny facts about them.
And yet fools believe them even if they sell magic stones over and over again.
A GOOD MAN DOES NOTHING.
SECOND CHANCES ,Yes, I believe we should give the repented a second chance, BUT not to a drug addict,murderer, rapist ,conman ,liar, cheat and a CORRUPTED POLITICIAN.Using money to sway the votes of desperate people .
ReplyDeleteWhy must a politician use money, sex to be elected.How is he going to recoup his money? More CORRUPTION.
I say sweep this corrupted ISA out.
WHY ? They never change.
WE NEED CHANGE.
He has not answered to the rakyat yet, if you ask me.These guys from umno never cease to amaze me. The last thing they did was put a gag (no reporting on Isa's money issue) on some newspaper. Democracy, press freedom,1Malaysia- all for show only. Make me sulk.
ReplyDeleteYes its true we should give a 2nd chance but Its very strange UMNO claim they
ReplyDeletehave thousands of members. Wanita. Pemuda. Putera .Puteri. Why recycle
the tarnished candidate? Where are the young ones? Can u explain.
A second chance can be given to people who may have committed some bad things unwillingly or due to unforeseen circumstances. Here we have an ex-Federal Minister who committed an offence which is the scrouge of the nation to reenforce his own position in his party with his full knowledge. Is this forgivable?
ReplyDeleteWe give our child a second chance becuz he may have done something wrong without knowing the consequences but here, someone wanted a position for his own and was found guilty by his party but can be nominated as a candidate for office in the Govt representing the people. What a farce.
Guess UMNO has no more clean candidate to be found and so, they might as well get a dirty guy who is supposed to help win the battle....but dont care so much about losing the war...all for the cause of saving face.
This second chance thing should be extended to MMT or the guy with two Mohammads in his name? And Rahim Thambi Chik? What about Anwar Ibrahim? BTW how would one, after voting for Isa, go home and tell his or her kids about not mixing around with bad hats?
ReplyDeleteWell good example for our future generation.....hidup 1corrpted Malaysia.
ReplyDeleteAli
Klang.
only if he/she is from umno and got caught red handed for whatever but the rayak noooooooooooo????????
ReplyDeleteanwar tlah dipilih olih rakyat pkr, isa telah olih bagan pinang so what tu lah politik.orang melayu ni tak habis habis dgn politik,pkr dah memerintah selangor,bn dah printah malaysia biar lah begitu, tunggu sajalah pilihanraya akan datang.ok
ReplyDeleteDear Nuraina,
ReplyDeleteI would give him or her a second chance if the crime had nothing to do with the people and purely impacts his or her private life only.
Anyway, would like to take this opportunity to wish you Selamat Hari Raya.
2nd chance to do what??? Just open your eyes and look around Seremban town. All those abandoned mega projects was under Isa's watch. It breaks your heart when you move to Port Dickson. Where have all the beaches gone??? And for crying out in anguish, what made Najib announce that PD is an army town??? That spells disaster for business and tourism. To win over the populace, he could not see the trees for the forest. So sad, so sad.
ReplyDeleteEverything must be taken in context. If the answer is yes, then disbarred lawyers should be allowed to re register and doctors who have been struck off should be reinstated. What about Madof? Would you allow him to handle your money again? There will no divorces based on infidelity..right?
ReplyDeleteAre you letting the PM know that you are available for support?
Then WHY Anwar was never given a second chance to be the rightful PM,assuming he's found guilty and rot so many years in jail? WHY?
ReplyDeleteWhat second chance?Isa was plain "unlucky" to be singled out from all those involved in "money politics",
ReplyDeleteperhaps due to jealousy as he was climbing up a little too fast for the comfort of "someone" and ,therefore,suspended ( mind you,not sacked).Now that he is no more a threat, he should be given "a second chance"After all, he is as credible as any UMNO leader.He was plain "unlucky" to be given the chance to "pay his dues" as many others, like him, are serving
at the highest level as they have not been "caught" and given the chance to pay their dues.
Cik Nuraina,
ReplyDeleteSalam Aidilfitri.
I believe you and many other reputable journalists were given a second chance when you and some friends returned to NST with a better deal in fact.
Indeed, when you left, it was with your reputation in tact while Isa was somewhat tainted. Not many others who were dealt with the same hand as you may get a second chance to be the best that they can be and serving where they are able to continue to strive.
I believe in second chances. You and many others are living proof.
Hang Tuah bersaing dengan Hang Jebat untuk jawatan laksamana. Hang Jebat berketurunan sama dengan Sultan Mansur Syah dan juga Bendahara Seri Nara Di Raja bin Raja Benua Keling Mani Purindam. Setelah Bendahara Seri Paduka Raja Tun Perak bin Tun Perpatih Sedang berkuasa, kedudukan Hang Tuah menjadi semakin penting. Hang Tuah berketurunan Melayu daripada sebuah negeri di utara Semenanjung. Tun Perak juga telah meletakkan Raja Muhammad, putera sulung Sultan menjadi Raja Pahang tetapi bukan sebagai Raja Melaka. Keputusan itu dibuat berikutan peristiwa Raja Muhammad membunuh Tun Besar, anak Tun Perak dalam satu permainan sepak raga. Beliau melantik Sultan Alauddin Riayat Shah menjadi sultan kerana Sultan Alauddin Riayat Shah ialah anak saudara Tun Perak. Raja Munawar yang sepatutnya menjadi sultan tidak dilantik walaupun ia beribukan seorang Melayu tulen dan pewaris takhta yang lebih berhak. Sebaliknya, dia menjadi raja di Kampar.
ReplyDeleteHang Jebat cuba melakukan rampasan kuasa namun percubaan itu gagal. Hang Tuah yang dibantu oleh Tun Perak serta pasukan-pasukan tentera dari negeri-negeri Melayu di utara semenanjung termasuk Selangor, Kedah dan Kelantan menggagalkan percubaan itu. Hang Jebat dihukum bunuh walaupun ia adik Sultan Mansur. Hang jebat memilih untuk mati di tangan Hang Tuah.
Puak Tun Perak dan Hang Tuah terus berkuasa di Melaka sehingga zaman Sultan Mahmud Shah. Setelah Tun Perak meninggal dunia, jawatan bendahara berpindah kepada adik Tun Perak iaitu Tun Perpatih Putih bin Tun Perpatih Sedang.
Apabila Bendahara Seri Tun Mutahir bin Tun Ali, atau terkenal dengan gelaran Temenggung Seri Maharaja berkuasa, politik Melaka dikuasai oleh penyokong Hang Jebat. Penyokong Hang Jebat terus berkuasa sehingga kedatangan Portugis.
Penyokong Tun Perak dan Hang Tuah tidak berpuas hati. Mereka bersekongkol dengan Alfonso de Albuquerque untuk menguasai Melaka. Panglima Awang membantu Alfonso de Albuquerque dengan meriam, kapal perang dan pasukan tentera. Beliau dibantu oleh Panglima Hitam. Pembesar Melaka lain yang membantu Panglima Awang ialah Raja Abdullah iaitu anak kepada Sultan Munawar Shah, Sultan Kampar. 16 Julai 1511 ialah tarikh yang amat bersejarah. Ini kerana pada tarikh inilah Panglima Awang menyatakan sokongan yang tidak berbelah bagi kepada Alfonso de Albuquerque. Alfonso de Albuquerque membawa pasukan marinnya memasuki kota Melaka pada 24 Ogos 1511 setelah sekurang-kurangnya 25,000 buah bangunan dimusnahkan dan lebih daripada 130,000 orang terbunuh. Raja Abdullah menjadi Bendahara Melaka pertama di bawah pentadbiran Portugis.
Isa Samad deserves a second chance. Yes indeed, in general perspective. But I refuse to give my vote to him because he was found guilty of corruption by his own party and now his party is putting him as the candidate for PRK. It is not about Isa but about his party, Umno. For the sake of argument on LGE and DSAI, they were found guilty by not their own party but their friendly opponent. Its not the same lah dear nuraina.
ReplyDeleteto the cowardly person who went by two names Tun something and Hang something, i'm sorry. but i think enough is enough. you have been giving remarks directed at me that are malicious. You must be frustrated.
ReplyDeleteListen. You know where I sit. Anytime. come on over and tell me to my face. but of course, you will not dare.
i have one name for the likes of you, wait...i have three names.
one of them starts with a C.
thank you.
nuraina
Why must his second chance be a peoples' representative? Would you give a second chance to the wolf with the guardianship of your sheep?
ReplyDeleteHe's already past middle age. He already made his name and can now live comfortably.
ReplyDeleteAre we telling people that Malays or Malaysians in general lack capable leaders and has to rely on old man to lead?
Negri Sembilan has a population of 1mil. On conservative side, just say 1% are eligible/capable to lead. There are 10000 people waiting and yet we keep going back to the same person.
I'm not against second chance but I will go for new blood.
Give Kartika a second chance. And I will vote for PR again in Selangor in the next GE. I wanna give Khalid, Ronnie, Teresa, & Co a second chance.
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I am extremely sorry to read that some of the postings on your blog has upset you, but then again when it comets to political issues, everyone gets emotional. Very few can keep a level head when debating issues. I am pro-opposition not merely for the sake of it, but because of the many wrongs UMNO have inflicted upon us rakyat these many years. Many of the issues are already well known by now and really not worth repeating. However when you mentioned that everybody deserves a second change, I agree. A wife caught a husband having an affair with another woman. He apologies for his misdeeds and vowed never to indulge in such extra marital activities again, I believe it is fine no matter how hurting it is, the wife would still like to give the spouse a second chance. But then here we are not talking about a marriage that almost hit the rocks but a politician found guilty of corruption. If he had apologised and vowed never to indulge in such activities again, he may deserve a second chance. But he did not and went on to say he was innocent and if that was not bad, the PM further dented his image by saying his offence was a technical matter. So sometimes, I wonder whether these UMNO fellas are joking or insulting our intelligence. You see as a politician, Isa does not only represent himself. He represents his party as well which is well known for its not so graceful gesture towards its critics. Isa would have done himself proud by staying out of the by-election just as everyone has been advising Chua Soi Lek to retire from politics. But if you want to continue your political pursuit, it is only natural that one has to be prepared to get burnt at the stake or crucified and this will be done most mercilessly. Yes, Isa does deserve a second chance but not when he is making a come back as a politician to represent the people at large. Have a good day, Nuraina. I love reading your blog especially when you wrote so much about your weekly visits to the hospital to attend to you dad.
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Wowowow, Why so angry la....such anger does not go well with that wonderful picture of yours up here lo!!!! You may be rightly be angry at these bloke(s), but don't la, reveal contradictions.
ReplyDeletegeronimo :on the contrary...the opinions by commenters here on politics -- including on Umno, BN or politicians -- have not at all distressed me.
ReplyDeletei'm not sure how you came to the conclusion. perhaps by my comment to a commenter here.
no, i was not upset. i simply had enough of the person's personal attack on me. that's all.
thank you.
Old Fart: thank you. surely i am entitled to speak my mind to tell off someone who's been nasty to me.
thanks again. appreciate it.
Ah yes, second chances! The likes of you and I deserve second chances. After all we are all God fearing, income tax paying [and whatever else inconsequential mortals like us do], law abiding Malaysians. And should, Heaven forbids, we get nicked for whatever reason and find ourselves guests of His Majesty in Kajang, Taiping or wherever, we should for the sake of fair play be given a second chance. Surely being rehabilitated should mean something in this fair land. No?
ReplyDeleteBut hey, wait a sec. the operative phrase in this discourse is, and underscore that three times in red, of consequence. I think. And a man of consequence Isa mostly certainly is. Why, he is a VP of his party, a mover and shaker as it were. As a member of his party's policy making body [Supreme Council, impressive name, eh!] Isa moves in his party's innermost sanctums where the air is too rarefied for mere mortals like us.
There is another thing about Isa. His party has found him guilty of money politics. Now, a lot has been bandied about about what that is and what that is not. Semantics aside, money politics smells like corruption to my nose. So? So, if he won the by-election he would in all probability be made a minister of the Crown. Therein lies the problem. Ethically, Isa has lost his moral high ground. He would be making decisions that are going to affect my life and he is morally incompetent. Begs the question; what does Najib and his cabal think we are?
Which brings us to the bigger pix about this political party. What does one make of a party whose vote-carrying delegates refuse to put an ethical and principled performer free of corruption and brimming with ideas into its supreme council? Small wonder then its lackadaisical attitude in handling the Isa brouhaha!
It never ceases to amaze me to see the party cynically take the ordinary voter for granted. Don't they believe that we could run amok in the polling booths. Haven't they learnt anything from the experiences of the Congress in New Delhi and the LDP in Tokyo? Are they that masochistic that they are hell bent on committing their party's political suicide?
Yes, to second chances as nobody is perfect.
ReplyDeleteHi Nuraina - many thanks for responding to my posting. Yes, I fully agree that personal attacks should not be condoned. In fact, it is always good to agree to disagree which helps to bring forth intelligent discourses. Nonetheless, like I said before, I love reading your blog [since early last year]. So, keep your articles coming.
ReplyDeleteDear all ... my take on this ... 2nd chance ... by all means ,,, yes boleh diberi. But in TSI's case ... tak lah sampai menjadi ketua lagi sekali. Banyak lagi TSI boleh sumbangkan kepada UMNO. MT UMNO yg putuskan kesalahan beliau ... kesalahan yg begitu berat ... tapi kalau begini ... integriti UMNO sendiri menjadi tanda tanya. Why do UMNO need MT ... why do UMNO need to curb rasuah & gejala2 politik duit. Biarkan saja ... kalau salah pun bisa di lupakan dua-tiga hari depan. UMNO tiada maruah & harga diri ...
ReplyDeleteWotif Pak Lah suddenly asks for 2nd chance...??
ReplyDeleteDear Puan Nuraina
ReplyDeleteAlhamdulillah, BN won yesterday at Bagan Pinang..... A great wake up call to Pakatan leaders and supporters.......
Nuraina,
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