tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post92965833706304615..comments2024-01-27T19:41:05.143+08:00Comments on Nuraina A Samad's 3540 Jalan Sudin: No Songkok, Please. We're DAP...NURAINA A SAMADhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-44307893329613936482008-06-13T09:50:00.000+08:002008-06-13T09:50:00.000+08:00Everbody is wrong. DAP reject wearing songkok just...Everbody is wrong. DAP reject wearing songkok just because their conterpart PAS do not wear songkok. So they follow PAS way. PAS rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-48182805090689802992008-06-11T03:27:00.000+08:002008-06-11T03:27:00.000+08:00aiyah, wearing a songkok wont make you KOKSONG lah...aiyah, wearing a songkok wont make you KOKSONG lah !! dun eat satay & laksa lah , what a fuss ! @#$%^&*<BR/> ( i am a chinese, so what !)<BR/> aina, BLESS u & family !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-8684342644828869192008-06-10T19:17:00.000+08:002008-06-10T19:17:00.000+08:00Oh no!!!!Jika DAP rasa memakai songkok sekejap ras...Oh no!!!!<BR/>Jika DAP rasa memakai songkok sekejap rasa tak selesa sebab rasa macam jadi Melayu, saya pula tak suka babi atau ladang babi di Malaysia kerana ia menjadikan saya Cina!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-42111019714819581972008-06-10T14:26:00.000+08:002008-06-10T14:26:00.000+08:00To all those who enjoy spewing racist remarks over...To all those who enjoy spewing racist remarks over small matters, like a simple headgear called the songkok, can u pls apologise now that the DAP CEC has already clarified matters.It was reported in the STAR today that they had already decided since April 13 that they don't have problem with their SA's wearing songkok for official functions. <BR/><BR/>So apparently u racist people have been victims of the masterly spin by BN MSM to the extent that u showed yr basal racist instincts. Malaysia Baru mana ada future jika fikiran kita masih tak suci. Kalaupun orang DAP tidak mahu pakai songkok, ada banyak salahkah ? Apa kata jika mereka suka pakai serban satu hari macam Nik Aziz atau Hadi Awang ? Akankah kau bising dan minta mereka balik (ke mana kali ini - Arab Saudi ? Kuwait atau Afghanistan ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-727620734902314582008-06-10T09:42:00.000+08:002008-06-10T09:42:00.000+08:00Aiyaaaaa... dont be so angry! You see, when those ...Aiyaaaaa... dont be so angry! You see, when those "goons" first chose the "fashion" to wear for parliament, they only EXPECTED the malays to be elected and to be represented, So the songkok got included in the fashion. Short sightedness. Later on, other races were elected. People start to "menghasut" here and there, we get this noise today. Dont know why the fuss, really. But if wearing songkok means showing loyalty, its a tad too much. Its not the hat.... its the heart.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-61439339002641569492008-06-10T05:44:00.000+08:002008-06-10T05:44:00.000+08:00suaramalaysia,Kenapa kau tak persoalkan terus kena...suaramalaysia,<BR/><BR/>Kenapa kau tak persoalkan terus kenapa Sultan mesti dari orang Melayu, bukan Iban, bukan Kadazan, bukan Kelabit dan bukan Orang Asli negrito. Ternyata kalau dibaca dari kaca mata kau pasti akan kata tak adil kan. <BR/><BR/>Ini lah akibatnya kalau kau keep looking at the issue through a microscope, Cuba kau try guna telescope pula.<BR/><BR/>-suarahati-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-90213153044229920132008-06-10T01:47:00.000+08:002008-06-10T01:47:00.000+08:00This land belongs to the orang-orang asli, so no o...This land belongs to the orang-orang asli, so no one can tell others to get out but only the orang-orang asli. Still complain so much? all should dress like orang asli then.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-92070748824745211782008-06-09T22:33:00.000+08:002008-06-09T22:33:00.000+08:00o-bummer... yes you are correct. it is part of the...o-bummer... yes you are correct. it is part of the "ketuanan" racist mentality and aparthied-driven superiority of some so-called "bumiputera Melayus" to superimpose their racial chauvinism on to others. <BR/><BR/>if it was not so, non-chauvinistic Malays will stand up against such racial and cultural posturings. <BR/><BR/>imagine the hullabullo and outcry from the umno youth jihadists and their sympathesizers if the Chinese or Malays were to state that all official functions should represent the equal depiction of authentic cultural and ethnic attire of Malaysians.<BR/><BR/>would parliment tolerate the kadazan headgear, the chinese cheongsam or the Indian cultural attire for so-called official functions? why was there such an outcry over a Kadazan headgear and the accusation that it looked like a cross? where we all the so-called malay harmony and nationalism proponents then. <BR/><BR/>were their mouths sealed with sticky ketupat or was it simply a cases of my Melayu songkok is more superior than any of you "second-class" non-Melayu kafirs? <BR/><BR/>it is no secret that non-Malays have been at the receiving end of some of the most dastardly comments against their cultural practices and costumes and to their religious faiths. <BR/><BR/>if the magnititude of these vicious malice-driven verbal assaults were made against the Malays or muslims with equally venom i can gurantee that the jihad boys of umno would have executed them. and so we witness this sandiwara of so-called cultural revisionism and hegemony.<BR/><BR/>the issue is about respect. if Malays respect the cultural identity of other races in this country, they would not make such racist demands. it is a blatant act of ethnic superiority and such attacks has been condoned in the name of harmony and nationalism.<BR/><BR/>those who insist that songkok wearing has nothing to do with Malay culture or islam is both intellectually and morally dishonest. i suggest a quick education on why Malays adopted the songkok as part of their attire in the first place.<BR/><BR/>it is convenient to fool some of the people some of the time, but it takes a habitual liar to propagate deceit and cultural revisionism on a national scale. <BR/><BR/>as i have stated before, it is a blatant attack on the soverignity of one's race, culture and religous beliefs to insist that they wear attire that is intriscally part of another culture, ethnicity and religion.<BR/><BR/>after fifty years of independence, it is time to speak the truth without manufacturing convenient "taquiah".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-36841462086238930192008-06-09T22:10:00.000+08:002008-06-09T22:10:00.000+08:00saya anak cina menunggu ulasan YB lim kit siang . ...saya anak cina menunggu ulasan YB lim kit siang . YB lim guan Eng , YB tony pua , YB karpal singh,<BR/>YB loke siew fook. YB jeff ooi<BR/>dalam bahasa melayu. alamat menyurat elektronik saya adalah<BR/>tonyquek1@hotmail.comBangsa Cina Malaysiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13616162263411718249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-35512328673188771912008-06-09T22:01:00.000+08:002008-06-09T22:01:00.000+08:00kepada saudari Nuraina,saya anak malaysia berbangs...kepada saudari Nuraina,<BR/>saya anak malaysia berbangsa cina akan mengulas mengenai isu songkok<BR/>dalam bahasa melayu yang sempurna, ingin saya menyatakan tindakan dun DAP enggan memakai songkok tidak disokong oleh majoriti orang cina di negara ini.pemikiran orang yang sempit tidak seharus bertapak disini. jika tak silap salah seorang daripada mereka adalah seorang doktor yang berpendidikan.<BR/>pelik bagaimana dia dapat menjadi seorang doktor. ingin saya menanyakan kenapa dia berasa selesa<BR/>bila memakai tie dan kot .kenapa tidak merajuk akan menjadi orang putih / mat salleh. kenapa tidak memakai pakaian tradisi orang cina pula. adakah kerana kentut orang putih lebih wangi ?<BR/>songkok hanya merupakan sebahagian daripada pakaian seragam orang melayu. orang melayu memakai pakaian cheongsam dengan selesa.doktor ini memang pelik orangnya.<BR/>saya mengulangi orang cina tak akan menyokong orang yang berfikiran sempit.<BR/>YB karpal singh kalau berani syorkan tindakan menghalau mereka <BR/>keluar daripada parti.(lebih baik gantungkan mereka di luar bangunan KOMTAR Penang )<BR/>ahli ini bercanggah dengan prinsip<BR/>DAP bangsa malaysia (malaysian malaysia) merosakkan nama baik parti dan negara dan juga perhubungan baik orang cina melayu india.<BR/><BR/>YB lim kit siang YB Lim guan eng<BR/>kenapa tidak memberi ulasan. jangan menganggap perkara sebegini sebagai tidak penting.<BR/>saya menunggu ulasan kamu dengan penuh kesabaran.Bangsa Cina Malaysiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13616162263411718249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-1454760431119734002008-06-09T20:35:00.000+08:002008-06-09T20:35:00.000+08:00I think it basically boils down to the Islamic min...I think it basically boils down to the Islamic mindset. Everything is forced down your throat. If you don't do it, potong kepala, potong tangan, potong kote. Everything simply boils down to potong dan potong.<BR/><BR/>There is no space for creativity, innovation, individual taste, artistic freedom etc. etc.<BR/><BR/>From the comments here, its clear that a simple question of headgear is taken as an affront to their mindset. <BR/><BR/>UN-FCUKING-BELIEVABLE!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-62318358761444685272008-06-09T20:33:00.000+08:002008-06-09T20:33:00.000+08:00Loyalty hs nothing to do with what is worn on th...Loyalty hs nothing to do with what is worn on the head but what is in the head. Mahathir likes to wear a cowboy head in his days as a PM, YB Hj Awang Hadi and Nik Aziz always wear a serban and some PAS MP's wear kopiah. Are they in any way disloyal to Malaysia ? Are they even less Melayu ? Come on, don't make this into a racial issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-58499655614007597542008-06-09T19:51:00.000+08:002008-06-09T19:51:00.000+08:00to those who mumbling that they never see Malay we...to those who mumbling that they never see Malay wear chinese attire. yeah.....i will wear one on their funeral, can or not? black and white rite? shud i wear the headgear? brown and kinda bunny shape rite? love to wear it..<BR/><BR/>This is Malayland, Malay federation in which Sultan symbolise Malay Custom and Heritage. respect la!! dah la dress code pun dah pakai coat, nak tambah songkok pun payah ka?<BR/><BR/>This is one of the reason why Malaysia will stay as Malayland , sorry la kalau aku nak compromy pasal 'Ketuanan Melayu'. Tak boleh percaya aku kat bangsa hangpa ni. Blood sucker. Takda kuasa hangpa berlagak baik la, bila dah bagi kuasa aku dapat agak macam mana akan berlaku.<BR/><BR/>well singapore tu pun having the same blood type with yours.. and see what happen when they are in power. Ni semua jadi pasal Pak Lah dunggu tu la. Masa mahathir, mampuih hangpa kalau berani angkat muka.<BR/><BR/>Nuraina, sorry for overeacting..aanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-75142048353473375842008-06-09T17:05:00.000+08:002008-06-09T17:05:00.000+08:00DAP should not be in Pakatan Rakyat. They do not d...DAP should not be in Pakatan Rakyat. They do not demonstrate "Harapan Baru Malaysia". Fighting over issues like this. I dont want to use the word "kiasu" here, but what exactly do they have against Malays or something?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anwar, you better reallign DAP's ways if Pakatan really wants to be a "united multiracial party"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-14300647640256060662008-06-09T16:28:00.000+08:002008-06-09T16:28:00.000+08:00very controversial issueIt would be a good gesture...very controversial issue<BR/><BR/>It would be a good gesture for them to wear songkok, to show that DAP is not a race-based party<BR/><BR/>Zainal A. Kasim et al, it is very childish of you guys to tell those guys to leave the country for not wearing songkok.<BR/><BR/>We must understand non Muslims's reservation about doing something deemed 'Islamic'. As such most non-muslims believe Songkok = Muslim. There should be proper education on malaysian/asian ethics, but the racist behaviour of our leaders does not make it easier.<BR/><BR/>We malaysians should be tought deeply on subject of courtesy, respect and humility. A non muslim wearing a songkok equates to a non muslim knowing he/she shouldn't wear sexy clothes in a muslim wedding.<BR/><BR/>but please, don't tell others to leave the country.<BR/><BR/>solution<BR/>1) those DAP guys should be reprimanded<BR/>2) malaysians should be thought on cultural diversity and asian-malaysian ethicsNick Chan Abdullahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00367129911069229333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-27963416821166024832008-06-09T16:25:00.000+08:002008-06-09T16:25:00.000+08:00"Sonkok is only for Malays and that is part of the..."Sonkok is only for Malays and that is part of the culture for them. You can't bring culture into politics. So, non-malays dont' have to wear teh sonkok. You are saying, it won't make you Malay if you wear the sonkok, let me ask you this, how about everybody wera the chinese traditional dress? Ask the Malays, if there can wear the the chinese dress or the Indian dress."<BR/><BR/>I do not see the problem la bodoh....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-48553271918265801052008-06-09T16:24:00.000+08:002008-06-09T16:24:00.000+08:00The songkok as I know it and remember of it is par...The songkok as I know it and remember of it is part of a Malay Gentleman's outfit. I still remember this neighbour of mine on his bicycle and his songkok. Looked really good. His son who is of my age, when I last met him, continues that tradition. And I thought he looked elegant. <BR/><BR/>I guess the question for the DAP guys is, what tradition is it thta they follow that requires them to wear their neckties?<BR/><BR/>Of course I too would be pissed off and would refuse to use it if those imposing this rule have sinister intentions in mind. But then this being something that cannot be proven I would then take an indifferent attitude and not give it significance as these DAP idiots are now doing. Giving it significance!!Old Farthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06473446507494861946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-25661229136548083182008-06-09T16:15:00.000+08:002008-06-09T16:15:00.000+08:00Why making this a racial issue. For those who said...Why making this a racial issue. For those who said that this is the act of forcing the people to wear songkok (irregardless the race), hello it's only during the opening la. Not during the who session. <BR/><BR/>The whole session, you only need to wear something that is decent and smart suit.<BR/><BR/>Plus, during the opening, the Sultan would be present. It's to show hormat to the Sultan la. what's wrong with that. Or you think you should not show respect to the tuan rumah anymore la. <BR/><BR/>But I think I agree with some of you. I don't think even the DAP rep would be so berani to show up during the opening bare head like that, especially the king of the crown is Sultan Iskandar. Not even the Malay rep, I can assure you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-70791281389128474552008-06-09T16:05:00.000+08:002008-06-09T16:05:00.000+08:00Alamak, ini pun boleh gaduh ke? I wore potu and sa...Alamak, ini pun boleh gaduh ke? I wore potu and saree when I performed the Indian dance with my friends, no hal pun. I wore cheongsam to celebrate Chinese New Year with my friends, no hal pun. My friends and I often exchange our ethnic costumes with each other because it's lovely to try them on for functions. If we can do it, what's DAP's deal with the songkok? It's just a matter of decorum, formality and protocol.<BR/><BR/>Come on, you politicians... just for once show us a good example for us to follow and behave like nice children!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-5467566910469935822008-06-09T15:45:00.000+08:002008-06-09T15:45:00.000+08:00Sikit sikit sudah marah, get the hell out of this ...Sikit sikit sudah marah, get the hell out of this country, dll. Hello kawan, "please grow up sikit".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-79080931544871374712008-06-09T15:03:00.000+08:002008-06-09T15:03:00.000+08:00IF the report is true... I will comment once DAP c...IF the report is true... <BR/><BR/>I will comment once DAP clarifies on this matter.Hi&Lohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13518147608789804432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-59325137629879050422008-06-09T14:58:00.000+08:002008-06-09T14:58:00.000+08:00I think most of u here are making comments on thi...I think most of u here are making comments on this issue without reading (with a discerning eye) the news item churned out by a STAR reporter in JB, The issue has apparently been spinned so masterly to make all of u here seemed like a joke. First, it quoted the DAP Johore Vice-chairman as saying SOME DAP CEC members as against its four Johore SA's wearing the songkok for the coming Assembly meeting. But it didn't mention who these CEC members are. Are these so-called CEC Members speaking for the CEC or are they inidivuals speaking for themselves ? Is not wearing the songkok the DAP's official position ? (These all were not clarified). Then it attempted to seek the opinion of those SA's and reported as if they were not happy with the party's CEC directive ? Was there a directive in the first place ? This was also not clarified.<BR/><BR/>So even before these positions are clarified, u people are already condemning the party and its leaders by spewing out comments tinted with racial connotations and un-Malaysian sentiments. This does not reflect kindly on your intelligience .That's why I call u people jokers.<BR/><BR/>Whether the DAP people wants to wear a songkok or not should not be a big issue. To me a songkok, a cowboy hate, a kungfu cap or a kopiah is just a headgear. Waerin it or not should not be interpreted as something as serious as loyalty to a country or being against another race or culture. <BR/><BR/>Of course, if the songkok is part of the official attire, then it may be a breach of official protocol if they don't wear it and as a consequence may be barred from attending the Assembly, just like if u don't wear the proper schoool uniform, u may be barred from attending school. Well let's wait and see whether they do that before we condemn them.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, why are u people reacting so hysterically to something that's not even worth being termed an issue. No wonder the reputation of some bloggers are being questioned !Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-4225156857461105022008-06-09T14:55:00.000+08:002008-06-09T14:55:00.000+08:00perkauman kuat geng2 DAP ni. tu sampai isu kecil m...perkauman kuat geng2 DAP ni. tu sampai isu kecil macam ni pun nak cakap. bengap sangat, bukan kalau pakai songkok nama pun bertukar. kau masih cina, xde effectnya!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-5851663730745979702008-06-09T14:04:00.001+08:002008-06-09T14:04:00.001+08:00Hi NAS,If one day a male Sikh attends one of these...Hi NAS,<BR/><BR/>If one day a male Sikh attends one of these ceremonies, is he obliged to wear a songkok over his obligatory turban? Have to admit it would look a little odd!<BR/><BR/>I'm Pakistani with Tajik heritage, and I sure would love to wear my own headgear which is very artistic and rich in culture. What would I be wearing when attending such functions?<BR/><BR/>I think we should be mature enough as a nation to appreciate various types of headgear to reflect our own heritage, including indigenous 'asli' heritage.<BR/><BR/>Songkok and all forms of headgear should be optional. I believe the Royalty should be allowed to be more open to plurality and diversity. Doesn't make us any less Malaysians. <BR/><BR/>By the way, what about females from different 'bangsas'?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033607004021638684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-22764514152610118962008-06-09T14:04:00.000+08:002008-06-09T14:04:00.000+08:00"We are not asking you to wear the songkok at home..."We are not asking you to wear the songkok at home, idiot!" -- haha.. exactly.<BR/><BR/>DAP is championing their race too. You can't hide your true colors forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com