tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post4683319817784142359..comments2024-01-27T19:41:05.143+08:00Comments on Nuraina A Samad's 3540 Jalan Sudin: Is Bersih 3.0 A Success?NURAINA A SAMADhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-11727915404865158282012-05-14T16:31:28.900+08:002012-05-14T16:31:28.900+08:00@Bruno,
Many well meaning Malays are confused bet...@Bruno,<br /><br />Many well meaning Malays are confused between billionaires of UMNO President's sons or brothers or wive or in-laws, UNMNO Ketua Wanita in-laws/husbands, Pemuda UMNO richest unemployed man with a good election system.<br /><br />The election system is good, what the Malays need to do is clean up UMNO of self serving people who set themselves up as serving the Malay through the United Malays National Organisations but in reality were only concern with making money for their sons/brothers/husband/in-laws by using Malays assets and rights.<br /><br />The Malays must also appoint Malays with fresh ideas and greater understanding of the wealth of their own nation. Indians like Mahathir/Nor Yakcop have tip toed around the Chinese capitalists while pushing down Malays expectations. 30% for the Malays is good enough. Why because when we gain independence the Malays had only 1%!!!??? Did the South Africans said it was okay for the Europeans colonialist to continue to own lands because when they were colonised the Africans own nothing?<br /><br />Of course not. The Africans started land ownership systems to ensure that the natives get back the land that the conquering Europeans took by war from them.<br /><br />The Malays need Malays leadership that will ensure justice and fair distribution of this wealthy country instead of Mahahtir or Kahriy which misinterprete the Federal Constitution and said that 80% of wealth must be affirm for Chinese and Indian capitalists! Where in the Federal Constitution that says by 2020 the 80% of the wealth must be owned by Chinese and others?<br /><br />Malays are angry with UMNO because while the per capita income is RM14,000 most of these capita is owned by UMNO President sons or brothers in-laws (Billions). The majority of the Malays have to do with RM500 once in 50 years!<br /><br />The Malays can read that the crony Indian Finance Minister Nor Yakcob that Mahathir picked from the street in front of Sogo, cause the loss of RM 90 billions but why he is in UMNO?<br /><br />That is why Malays are on the streets and kicking the police. They are disenfranchised from the UMNO Malay leadership.<br /><br />Statistic which claim equal per capita but hide the truth of wealth accumulations by UMNO Presidents and other office bearers can only last so long.<br /><br />UMNO consists of Malays NGOs. So it is the appropriate Malay platform. It is for the Malays to appoint the right people who will fight for the Malays, nationalised the economy from Chinese hegemony and not being double faced about it.<br /><br />UMNO Presidents would come crying to UMNO assembly, their face puckering with emotions as the watch the Malay masses only to wipe them off to give aeroplanes,IPPs, Satellite, Frequencies, concessions to the Chinese and Indian capitalists in the name of meritocracy!! hehe and their sons of course.CleanUpUMNOnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-8852053918417100182012-05-12T21:25:20.369+08:002012-05-12T21:25:20.369+08:00saracen: well good for you. i was never a card car...saracen: well good for you. i was never a card carrying member of any political party.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-57543778792239326702012-05-11T15:37:27.707+08:002012-05-11T15:37:27.707+08:00The Bersih activity of Ambiga is just publicity st...The Bersih activity of Ambiga is just publicity stunt by DAP, PAS and PkR.<br /><br /><br />There are many PR supporters it is true. But there are more BN supporters that is why BN is ruling the country.<br /><br />Trying to get your supporters on the street instead of the ballot box is useless when you dont have the numbers at the ballot box.<br /><br />If BN were to bring their supporters on the streets then there would be more than PR.<br /><br />But then we dont need elections just streets fights. If that what Lydia and other naive Malaysians think.<br /><br />The SPR is good. But the majority of the people is with UMNO and BN. So learn to be a good loser in a civil society...Numbersgamenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-75241413835319094382012-05-05T16:48:14.584+08:002012-05-05T16:48:14.584+08:00fyi I used to be a member of UMNO, let alone suppo...fyi I used to be a member of UMNO, let alone supporter, but not any more.<br /><br />UMNO is corrupted to the core these days. You don't need to look very far just the lembu feedlot issue is enough.Saracennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-75861235755084561232012-05-05T14:44:21.732+08:002012-05-05T14:44:21.732+08:00Until today NST never even came up with a approxim...Until today NST never even came up with a approximate number of people who turned up at Bersih. What a joke! Takutlah tu. Kikiki!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-61804620830828695522012-05-04T23:09:44.668+08:002012-05-04T23:09:44.668+08:00saracen: hello...you understand what i'm sayin...saracen: hello...you understand what i'm saying? Bersih is for free and fair elections. But the rally surely wasn't. you want to believe it is, you do that. people like you cannot accept differing views. 250,000? whatever you say. and all were there for Bersih? <br /><br />cone on-lah. but PEOPLE LIKE YOU very blind to everything else.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-26979153637850066972012-05-03T23:47:52.838+08:002012-05-03T23:47:52.838+08:00Bersih 3.0 and the rest is about CALLING FOR A FRE...Bersih 3.0 and the rest is about CALLING FOR A FREE AND FAIR ELECTION? As simple as it sounds but what I don't get it is when you and people alike are turning a freaking blind eye to this simple fact of the matter (You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand this).<br /><br />and surely 250,000 who turned up can't be wrong.<br /><br />I am sure there must be thousands of civil servants joining the Bersih gathering otherwise they wouldn't be able to make up the number.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-66469989884112202132012-05-03T14:12:43.203+08:002012-05-03T14:12:43.203+08:00Islam itu BERSIH..yyy malays muslim yg buat KOTOR&...Islam itu BERSIH..yyy malays muslim yg buat KOTOR>???????minta bantuan puan temukan sepupu saya di singapura..dah lama terputus hubungan...ABDULLAH BIN SUDIN..one of S'pore Malays Success..tqsofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05757944329630911615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-87645087768213883602012-05-02T17:15:04.275+08:002012-05-02T17:15:04.275+08:00to the idiotic commentator who mentioned "ara...to the idiotic commentator who mentioned "arak" in your comment -- get a life-lah.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-66035497035198149012012-05-02T17:12:48.170+08:002012-05-02T17:12:48.170+08:00Bruno: Bersih is a success. The whole idea of Bers...Bruno: Bersih is a success. The whole idea of Bersih definitely appealed to most Malaysians. <br /><br />But the rally? Sure. Thousands. There are the genuine supporters, opposition and BN supporters, and the anarchists.<br /><br />Anyway, to each his/her own.<br /><br />As for me..i stopped walking with Bersih when it was no longer a walk for the rakyat. and let's get real here. Bersih 2.0 and 3.0 were not for the rakyat -- it was a walk for a political party. We know it wasn't meant to be that. But we know it was just that.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-19730889956366166402012-05-02T17:07:34.671+08:002012-05-02T17:07:34.671+08:00anon@2:51PM: don't be becos it's always ea...anon@2:51PM: don't be becos it's always easier to make assumptions when you say things without verifying.<br /><br />we all stand up for anyone who was roughed up at the rally.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-24219887674937590162012-05-02T15:24:25.819+08:002012-05-02T15:24:25.819+08:00mahu share ye. Tq.mahu share ye. Tq.Cik Kifihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01547752431580078580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-42695846320529606592012-05-02T13:53:00.222+08:002012-05-02T13:53:00.222+08:00A rally supported by a political party or parties ...A rally supported by a political party or parties would sure be hijacked, whether you intended it or otherwise. I am saddened to see that the BERSIH committee failed to see that when it allowed participation of political parties, especially so on the opposing side, in the rally.Anak Jati Peraknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-61814978229703389842012-05-02T13:41:16.598+08:002012-05-02T13:41:16.598+08:00AYAH 1:02.. Spot on.
You dont have to wait until ...AYAH 1:02.. Spot on.<br /> You dont have to wait until its over to realise its (will be?) hijacked by politicians. Theres so many oppurtunities here to grab... everybody, any party, can find to gain something out of this....whats sickening to me is, in the middle of kidnappings and child abuse case risen of late, parents still brings their kids. I guess the only explanation is you kinda hope somethg wil happen to your kids, so that itll create awareness, for a 'better tommorow" ... gosh...woi...dont want anak, dont buat. simple as that. ke memang takde otak? Whatever your excuse, whoever you support, bringing todlers and under age is totally unacceptable. UNACCEPTABLE, FULL STOP. o yah, by the way, to those who supports the demonstrations....hmm... think yah...if, IF your leader managed to take over the country, and we, the majority that do not support this violence, takes EVERYTHING to the te streets...say... everytime we tak puas hati over smthg, we demo....u tak boleh complaint tau? I mean.. if ur leader succesful in gaining what they want by means of demo@violence, obviously its the ONLY WAY we get what we want... right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-78881346966545719902012-05-01T22:04:50.915+08:002012-05-01T22:04:50.915+08:00to Lydia , without PKR ,Dap and PAS can Bersih mak...to Lydia , without PKR ,Dap and PAS can Bersih make the number ? lain fikir dulu and if you think MERAP statistik betul then you should read Pure Shiite .So lain kali 'THINKAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-36200628839510148052012-05-01T14:51:44.496+08:002012-05-01T14:51:44.496+08:00Datuk,
I'm surprised that senior journalists ...Datuk, <br />I'm surprised that senior journalists like you and Ahiruddin Atan (i don't refer to him by his nickname as I feel he does not live to the name anymore) have not stood up for your colleagues who have been roughed up by the police. Do you think that the police were justified in chasing and beating up rally participants? Please be a responsible journalist; stop whoring your talent for writing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-10886457042492385372012-04-30T01:25:03.878+08:002012-04-30T01:25:03.878+08:00Nuraina,first of all my personal opinion is that B...Nuraina,first of all my personal opinion is that Bersih 3.0,which is for a fairer and cleaner election in Malaysia,is a huge success.Which political party or NGO's in Malaysia could have co-ordinated such a rally in thirty countries.Even the Umno/BN with its machinery and unlimited funds could not achieved what the organisers of Bersih 3.0 have.<br /><br />First of all the people are fed up with the arrogant ways of the corrupted regime and their offsprings.Flaunting their ill gotten wealth,abuse of power,breaking the laws and their immunity from it,directly at the faces of the people.<br /><br />Why Bersih 3.0 have been very successful.First of all it was well supported by Malaysians of all walks of lives,irrespective of race and party affiliations.Although we have to admit that PR supporters are many times more than Barisan's.<br />But that doe's not meant that Bersih 3.0 should be viewed as partisan.<br /><br />At least we know for one thing that Malaysians know how to protest peacefully and with civility.If for not the incidents of breaching the barricades at the end,the protests would have ended peafully.It would have been a real feather in the cap for the organisers,Malaysians and our men in uniformed.<br /><br />Maybe it would have been a record for a peaceful rally such size and have a place in the guiness book of records.But alas for the stupidity of a rowdy small crowd it was destined not to be.<br /><br />For once we have seen a festival like atmosphere,with the people able to mingle with the police personnel without the fear of intimidation in them.The actions of the police were far more accomadating.Even for a skeptic like me,Bersih 3.0 been incident free was beginning to look more like a reality.<br /><br />My personal views,<br /><br />The winner:Bersih 3.0 and Malaysians alike.<br /><br />The losers:The polititians who forget to zipped their asses during Bersih day.<br /><br />The ruling regime:Neutral.<br /><br />The PDRM:For once in a very long time,they have acted neutral and professional.brunonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-242047739004621782012-04-29T23:14:31.424+08:002012-04-29T23:14:31.424+08:00salahuddin,
saya tidak mengambil bahagian dalam p...salahuddin,<br /><br />saya tidak mengambil bahagian dalam protes Bersih 3.0. Jadi saya tidak bisa memberi pandangan saya mengenai apa yang terjadi di kawasan perhimpunan di KL. Tapi pendirian saya selama ni -- Bersih 2 dan3 adalah permainan politik. Bukan tulus untuk free and fair elections walaupun ramai yang ikhlas menyokong kempen ini. Ia di gunakan oleh politik pembangkan untuk jatuhkan BN. Itu amat jelas sekali dan telah terbukti.NURAINA A SAMADhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07671206532110686716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-30749526743845366032012-04-29T22:02:29.211+08:002012-04-29T22:02:29.211+08:00Another supporter' s observation
http://ranti...Another supporter' s observation<br /><br />http://rantingsbymm.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/my-bersih-30-experience-behind-barbed.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-86011155053751028062012-04-29T14:21:40.092+08:002012-04-29T14:21:40.092+08:00Minta izin untuk kongsi, puan.Minta izin untuk kongsi, puan.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05523035299491402935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-21823010813134801452012-04-29T13:01:41.443+08:002012-04-29T13:01:41.443+08:00wise words. i salute you. you've put my though...wise words. i salute you. you've put my thoughts and feelings of that event into perfectly woven words. thank you.ruki kenishirohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00425205472059923046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-60421049387119610562012-04-29T09:50:08.883+08:002012-04-29T09:50:08.883+08:00Datuk... saya lebih suka tulisan Datuk yang dapat ...Datuk... saya lebih suka tulisan Datuk yang dapat memaparkan perasaan sendiri. Cara "copy-paste" ini lebih kepada sikap 'hear say" yang saya tidak begitu gemari.Abdul Salamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03753833539459480142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-7152762182011177512012-04-29T05:53:27.570+08:002012-04-29T05:53:27.570+08:00If indeed Anwar had provoked the police , then let...If indeed Anwar had provoked the police , then let the world know. Malaysian are no fools and how wise we are all the rotten politicians will know come the next GE>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-89929992582663649322012-04-29T04:58:23.594+08:002012-04-29T04:58:23.594+08:00..sad..sadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-38530403.post-24226175545361559862012-04-29T01:41:05.488+08:002012-04-29T01:41:05.488+08:00The so-called civil liberties people like this Amb...The so-called civil liberties people like this Ambiga worshipper are such hypocrites. When Anwar and his Pakatan people provide the numbers to their cause, they never complained. Now the whole thing had degenerated into an ugly riot, they are trying to blame their Pakatan supporters. You think you can easily get funding for demos, sit-ins, or whatever you wish to call it without giving something back to your paymasters? You think you can just wash your hands off the responsibilities should anything happen to the policemen fighting for their lives in HKL ICU? You are equally responsible for the mayhem that happened today, there is nothing fun and youthful about it, just nasty and destructive.BIGCAThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232943856132991348noreply@blogger.com